The 50 economic numbers from 2011 that will shock you

[SuperHappyMan]

Don't worry Wulf, that feeling should pass quite quickly. Approximately when I decide that your name is silly.

[THEWULFMAN]

Don't worry Wulf, that feeling should pass quite quickly. Approximately when I decide that your name is silly.

Right back at you, "SuperHappyMan".

[Yanoda]

Who said we were against government? I'm not a goddamn anarchist, i'm saying that career politicians are a scourge in our country. Those in the House don't even bother having opinions of their own, since going against the party line will [m'kay] with their re-elections. If only there was something that we could do in order to keep people from serving in the same position for three decades, like, I dunno, a [m'kay] term limit?

And i'm getting sick and tired of people saying that "Utopian" ideals aren't worth following. You strive for perfection in order to be extraordinary; if you don't try to eliminate all corruption, then you're a [poo] person to be in charge of a government. And yet here we have a bunch of people who don't know what a goddamn server is arguing about SOPA, without actually arguing for or against it; they're just butting heads, having a little [m'kay] pissing match, and getting absolutely nothing done as per usual. Meanwhile, the economy is falling apart, the educational system is stupid as hell, and corruption is running rampant.

Politicians aren't a government. Politicians are dickheads, simply by nature of their job.

I never stated anyone is specifically against government. Politicians are part of government (inherent in our system). Removing politicians would reduce a lot of the current government system we have. You may have missed my comment about changing the system to address some issues...
I also never stated that we should not strive to get Utopian ideals, I'm all for it. But one needs to realize that with the current system/mindset it will be very difficult to fully eradicate corruption or the like that ails government or politics (or collective group). We can achieve near Utopian ideals over many years/decades, but we will never achieve the absolute Utopian ideal since people tend to have different views of what should be done etc.
The rest I also agree with you. We don't disagree, just that we misunderstood/misinterpreted what the other was saying.
Concerning the economy. I gave an example what Germany did in the 1930s to get itself out of its Economic Depression. Though I assume some would not like to use the same process as Germany did.

Cheers

Yanoda

[Duel of Fates]

I gave an example what Germany did in the 1930s to get itself out of its Economic Depression. Though I assume some would not like to use the same process as Germany did.

Cheers

Yanoda

Unfortunately, there are some who would. We have to be cautious and guard against this from happening again. Remember, Adolf came into power through the Democratic process. Corruption of our Democracy has been going on for generations now, and it will take generations to set it right. But just because it is difficult and the outcome is uncertain, it does not mean we should give up.

[SuperHappyMan]

Who said we were against government? I'm not a goddamn anarchist, i'm saying that career politicians are a scourge in our country. Those in the House don't even bother having opinions of their own, since going against the party line will [m'kay] with their re-elections. If only there was something that we could do in order to keep people from serving in the same position for three decades, like, I dunno, a [m'kay] term limit?

And i'm getting sick and tired of people saying that "Utopian" ideals aren't worth following. You strive for perfection in order to be extraordinary; if you don't try to eliminate all corruption, then you're a [poo] person to be in charge of a government. And yet here we have a bunch of people who don't know what a goddamn server is arguing about SOPA, without actually arguing for or against it; they're just butting heads, having a little [m'kay] pissing match, and getting absolutely nothing done as per usual. Meanwhile, the economy is falling apart, the educational system is stupid as hell, and corruption is running rampant.

Politicians aren't a government. Politicians are dickheads, simply by nature of their job.

I never stated anyone is specifically against government. Politicians are part of government (inherent in our system). Removing politicians would reduce a lot of the current government system we have. You may have missed my comment about changing the system to address some issues...
I also never stated that we should not strive to get Utopian ideals, I'm all for it. But one needs to realize that with the current system/mindset it will be very difficult to fully eradicate corruption or the like that ails government or politics (or collective group). We can achieve near Utopian ideals over many years/decades, but we will never achieve the absolute Utopian ideal since people tend to have different views of what should be done etc.
The rest I also agree with you. We don't disagree, just that we misunderstood/misinterpreted what the other was saying.
Concerning the economy. I gave an example what Germany did in the 1930s to get itself out of its Economic Depression. Though I assume some would not like to use the same process as Germany did.

Cheers

Yanoda

Ah, I gotcha. I think I might have been a bit unclear with my [poo] there, my bad. What I was saying was that the career politicians are the ones that keep [m'kay] us over. They aren't treating governing the country and voting over important issues as their duty, but as their job; and that's the thing that keeps [m'kay] the country up. In my opinion, the House not having term limits is one of the biggest issues the US is facing right now, and we're not going to do [poo] about it. We've got a bunch of people who have no right to be in the House, solely because they're completely out of touch with the Internet and how that [poo] works. The debates about SOPA and things like that are just ideological [poo], where every single person that stands up could be replaced by someone else in their party with little to no difference. The two year limit doesn't actually keep the [poo] people from staying in office, it just makes them afraid enough for the next election to keep firmly on the party line. Shame, really.

[WD-40]

The two year limit doesn't actually keep the [poo] people from staying in office, it just makes them afraid enough for the next election to keep firmly on the party line. Shame, really.

That and over the many years, both Republican and Democratic Congressional Members and Senators have sucked the Treasury's cash cow dry into oblivion, by doing everything that they can to send big money and projects back to their respective districts so sweeten the deal of getting re-elected. Damn jackoffs!

[Yanoda]

Unfortunately, there are some who would. We have to be cautious and guard against this from happening again. Remember, Adolf came into power through the Democratic process. Corruption of our Democracy has been going on for generations now, and it will take generations to set it right. But just because it is difficult and the outcome is uncertain, it does not mean we should give up.

One should make a clear distinction between the economic recovery of Germany in 1930s and Germany's lust for power in the 1940s (more political).
The actions Hitler has done to bring Germany out of their depression has helped Germany quite a bit at the time. Using the same/similar actions to get a country out of an economic depression as Germany does not automatically equate Nazism or Autocracy.
The political side of it is a whole different story.

@SuperHappyMan
Now the big question that arises, how will we (the people/activists) change the system in such a way that prevents further corruption from occurring and get politicians to get their act together.
Maybe some would like to give some ideas that could address the issues?

Cheers

Yanoda

[SuperHappyMan]

@SuperHappyMan
Now the big question that arises, how will we (the people/activists) change the system in such a way that prevents further corruption from occurring and get politicians to get their act together.
Maybe some would like to give some ideas that could address the issues?

Cheers

Yanoda

BURN ALL THAT [poo] TO THE GROUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUND

[Yanoda]

BURN ALL THAT [poo] TO THE GROUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUND

Now that would be too easy, where's the challenge?

Cheers

Yanoda