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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby THEWULFMAN » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:13 pm

Minwu325 wrote:there's only one god, and i don't think he dresses like that


HAHA, Avengers reference. I've seen that movie 3 times! I love it! I might see it a 4th time!
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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby [m'kay] » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:16 pm

Yanoda wrote:
[m'kay] wrote:We haven't even figured out how to live on the moon. Who the hell are we to decide whether or not a God exists? [m'kay] science saying Gods aren't possible, we're not even close to the point where we could begin to answer that question, and arguing about it is [m'kay] stupid. It's like we're [m'kay] around with sticks, and then saying that skyscrapers aren't possible because how do you make them out of sticks? The fact is, we're so far away from any point of being able to conduct experiments to determine the existence of God that simple belief is just as valid a reason as the hardest of science.

Hence the statement, we have no current evidence that supports the existence of God(s).
We didn't know the existence of bacteria until 1676. Before that, no one claimed they existed since there was no current evidence proving them. The concept of God is the single most persistent claim that something exists despite the lack of evidence proving it. I would rather not debate the existence of God(s) but many take actions in the name of their view of God(s) (Terrorists and the Crusades), use God(s) in their arguments, claim that the religious have a higher morality than those not religious etc.

Our actions as a civilization is what defines us, not God(s) and what it wants us to do. Through our own knowledge and effort (science included), we have sent several individuals to the moon. Religion did not provide the technological advancement we had in the past century, it was science. The development of better medication and treatment in the past century was developed by science, not religion. I can go on, but you get the point.

We're even starting to create micro black holes now. Let's see religion do that.

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Religion formed a basis for people to gather around, and was the glue that held many massive nations together long enough to actually provide the scientific advancements that have led us here today.


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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby Minwu325 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:19 pm

THEWULFMAN wrote:
Minwu325 wrote:there's only one god, and i don't think he dresses like that


HAHA, Avengers reference. I've seen that movie 3 times! I love it! I might see it a 4th time!



so who did you go with 3 times?
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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby Yanoda » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:22 pm

[m'kay] wrote:Religion formed a basis for people to gather around, and was the glue that held many massive nations together long enough to actually provide the scientific advancements that have led us here today.
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Yet has also caused the deaths of countless lives based on the religious views. Has also stalled/set back our advancement of of our civilization by over a Millenia (Dark/Middle Ages).

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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby [m'kay] » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:28 pm

Yanoda wrote:
[m'kay] wrote:Religion formed a basis for people to gather around, and was the glue that held many massive nations together long enough to actually provide the scientific advancements that have led us here today.
WHAT NOW BRO WHAT NOW

Yet has also caused the deaths of countless lives based on the religious views. Has also stalled/set back our advancement of of our civilization by over a Millenia (Dark/Middle Ages).

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The lives that religion has cost can indeed be quantified to a certain extent, and there wouldn't be all too much advancement without religion holding [poo] together for so long. And, of course, there's the fact that most scientific advancements from the first chunk of recorded history were from Muslim cultures, and most of those early scientists were almost certainly inspired by God.

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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby THEWULFMAN » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:30 pm

Minwu325 wrote:
THEWULFMAN wrote:
Minwu325 wrote:there's only one god, and i don't think he dresses like that


HAHA, Avengers reference. I've seen that movie 3 times! I love it! I might see it a 4th time!



so who did you go with 3 times?



My dad. He's really likes Avengers, Captain America: The First Avenger, Iron Man 2, and Thor. He's not much of a fan of Iron Man 1, and he really doesn't like The Hulk. Although he loves the new actor playing him, much better than Edward Norton.
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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby Hobo » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:32 pm

Pssst. Catholics invented universities.
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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby Minwu325 » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:36 pm

i invented universities, and video games
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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby [m'kay] » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:38 pm

A Hobo wrote:Pssst. Catholics invented universities.


Yes, and the Assyrians invented the use of iron in war. That doesn't mean we haven't done it better.


I got a D in World History so i'm really confused as to precisely how I remember all these random facts, but oh well [m'kay] [female dog] smoke trees etc
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Re: Why MT doesn't believe in this.

Postby Yanoda » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:38 pm

[m'kay] wrote:The lives that religion has cost can indeed be quantified to a certain extent, and there wouldn't be all too much advancement without religion holding [poo] together for so long. And, of course, there's the fact that most scientific advancements from the first chunk of recorded history were from Muslim cultures, and most of those early scientists were almost certainly inspired by God.
But then, what do we need calculus for anyway?


Science was not motivated by religion, but by the search/craving for knowledge and understanding. Religion stated (says in the Holy texts) that the Earth was flat, the search for knowledge has led many people to discover that it was not so. Many scientific advancements have conflicted with the ideas/ideals of religion. Galileo being accused of heresy and was sentenced for house arrest for the rest of his life for claiming the earth was not the center of the Universe, is one notable example.

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