Why MT doesn't believe in this.

[[m'kay]]

The fact that I have to carry on 3 separate conversations with 3 people makes it hard to keep things coherent and understandable.

BTW if you have the perfect argument I'd read it. But words are cheap so I might not agree with it, (unless it really was perfect) but I would read it.

So what you're saying is is that you have read every argument, and either conveniently forgot to or simply didn't respond to the arguments that were best supported against your claims? If words are cheap, then hello Ebeneezer.

Which ones have I skipped? To make that comment, you had to have read every page too. So which one did I pass over?

I believe that all the words written in this topic are infallible, including Crater's claim that you're ignoring his arguments. If you think differently, then let's see some proof or else that's just, like, your opinion man.

And Wulf, I was middle of the road too before I realized how [m'kay] stupid this entire thread is. Don't bother with this, man.

[(SWGO)Minas_Thirith]

You kinda remind me of my oldest brother wulf.
Besides the part that he can be very cynic towards what others believe he himself will never say what he believes in.

With what he currently knows he doesn't believe in creationism as the bible states it, because his argument is that the bible is writen by humans
And thus by his opinion doesn't come as a message from god.
He believes what can be prooven, but doesn't exclude the posibility of a god or creationism itself, as he does see there is some sort of design in nature.

He also believes the evolution theory cannot be correct, since we don't act like animals, or any other kind of lifeform on this planet.
Due to this he doesn't exclude the posibility of life outside this planet, as per nature we don't seem to belong here compared to other life forms.

He has many theories about how we got here, and is somewhere in the middle of it all.....

MT

[Col. Hstar]

I believe that all the words written in this topic are infallible, including Crater's claim that you're ignoring his arguments. If you think differently, then let's see some proof or else that's just, like, your opinion man.

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[THEWULFMAN]

That's sound advice Narg. Sadly I'm way too stupid to follow it.

He also believes the evolution theory cannot be correct, since we don't act like animals, or any other kind of lifeform on this planet.

That's the problem I could never make clear to you last time you were here. We do act like animals. Our one difference is that we have (somewhat) superior intelligence.

Both humans and animals use tools. Even fish have been observed using tools.

Both humans and animals can love.

Both humans and animals have problem solving abilities.

Both humans and animals act in anger, and jealousy.

Both humans and animals mourn our dead.

Both humans and animals have monogamous relationships and non-monogamous relationships.

Both humans and animals have gay and lesbian members.

Both humans and animals kill for reasons other than food, or mates, or even territory.

Both humans and animals treat others with cruelty at times.

Both humans and animals play.

Both humans and animals lie.

Both humans and animals rape.

This isn't even going into the obvious stuff. Humans are just smart animals. I don't understand why this is hard to understand. Even from a creationists standpoint God created all animals and humans, why can't they be the same thing while humans are just special? Even a creationist should be able to agree humans are animals.

You're either giving humans too much credit, or more likely, not giving animals enough credit.

[haasd0gg]

Glad I can contribute to this intelligent discussion

[[m'kay]]

I believe that all the words written in this topic are infallible, including Crater's claim that you're ignoring his arguments. If you think differently, then let's see some proof or else that's just, like, your opinion man.

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Well obviously some posts are outdated and hold beliefs that simply aren't conducive to today's society, so they don't count. Now come on, let's see some of your "proof".

[Col. Hstar]

Well obviously some posts are outdated and hold beliefs that simply aren't conducive to today's society, so they don't count. Now come on, let's see some of your "proof".

Here is your proof. Study it carefully

[[m'kay]]

You call me an idiot, but look what you're posting in response to your own argument. You might say I was strawmanning, but no I actually wasn't. That's pretty much what you're saying. You're saying that a book written by a bunch of dudes is infallible. I'm saying that a thread written by a bunch of dudes is infallible. And the response you're giving me for being such a [m'kay] idiot is the exact response everyone's sending you. That's not a coincidence.

[Col. Hstar]

You call me an idiot, but look what you're posting in response to your own argument. You might say I was strawmanning, but no I actually wasn't. That's pretty much what you're saying. You're saying that a book written by a bunch of dudes is infallible. I'm saying that a thread written by a bunch of dudes is infallible. And the response you're giving me for being such a [m'kay] idiot is the exact response everyone's sending you. That's not a coincidence.

Yes but the difference is, that I really do believe what I stated about the Bible, you just being a moron for the sake of being a moron.

I understand the responses I'm getting perfectly. I only point out that the bitterness and vehemence of the responses I get is hypocritical to say the least, because they can't accept or tolerate that those are my beliefs without telling me how "dangerous" and "harmful" or "stupid" my ideas can be.

Honestly, If you really expect me to decide my beliefs are unreasonable and change my views because of a handful of links posted by people I've know for less then a year, I would stick to watching that last you-tube video. It's a better use of your time

[[m'kay]]

You call me an idiot, but look what you're posting in response to your own argument. You might say I was strawmanning, but no I actually wasn't. That's pretty much what you're saying. You're saying that a book written by a bunch of dudes is infallible. I'm saying that a thread written by a bunch of dudes is infallible. And the response you're giving me for being such a [m'kay] idiot is the exact response everyone's sending you. That's not a coincidence.

Yes but the difference is, that I really do believe what I stated about the Bible, you just being a moron for the sake of being a moron.

I understand the responses I'm getting perfectly. I only point out that the bitterness and vehemence of the responses I get is hypocritical to say the least, because they can't accept or tolerate that those are my beliefs without telling me how "dangerous" and "harmful" or "stupid" my ideas can be.

Honestly, If you really expect me to decide my beliefs are unreasonable and change my views because of a handful of links posted by people I've know for less then a year, I would stick to watching that last you-tube video. It's a better use of your time

Your ideas are dangerous... When they're on the societal level. That's all they're saying. When you have a pair of societies with differing beliefs that they both believe are infallible, that's how you get never ending wars. If you need an example, just look at the constant fighting between the Sunni and Shi'a.

And by the way, going by your first sentence there, you're implying that you're a moron as well. You're saying that i'm just being a moron for the sake of it, while you're being a moron because you truly believe what you say. Work on your wordplay a bit, Homestar.