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Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 6:02 am
by 11_Panama_
I don't see a graph that fits my views in politics. This one is one of them.

Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:09 pm
by Draigun
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Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 12:59 am
by Brazosgrad
Draigun just looks like he copied mine...

Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:22 am
by Matt-Chicago
For WD-40
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Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:39 am
by MATTHEW'S_DAD
MC, that's Obama's vacation and golf money. Gee whiz.

Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 2:54 am
by (=DK=)Samonuh
MATTHEW'S_DAD wrote:MC, that's Obama's vacation and golf money. Gee whiz.

40% of George Bush's Presidency were vacation days, the largest amount of any President in American History...

Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:02 am
by THEWULFMAN
(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:
MATTHEW'S_DAD wrote:MC, that's Obama's vacation and golf money. Gee whiz.

40% of George Bush's Presidency were vacation days, the largest amount of any President in American History...



Why do people bring up the problems of the past presidents as an excuse for the problems of the current?

Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 3:07 am
by (=DK=)Samonuh
THEWULFMAN wrote:
(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:
MATTHEW'S_DAD wrote:MC, that's Obama's vacation and golf money. Gee whiz.

40% of George Bush's Presidency were vacation days, the largest amount of any President in American History...



Why do people bring up the problems of the past presidents as an excuse for the problems of the current?

Because when somebody is a blatant neo-conservative ignoramus, I feel like it's necessary to point out the flaws of the people that they themselves elected into office. And no, I'm not an Obama supporter.

Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 6:40 am
by Draigun
Brazmin wrote:Draigun just looks like he copied mine...

I'm a bit more to the right and more towards up. But they do look similar.

And Richdog is right... even a person who doesn't study politics can easily take the wording in different contexts. I found myself having to re-read a good 25% of the entire questions, and pondering the political context of the meaning. I had to consistently look at the questions in a different view, to rest-assured I'm answering only using my political beliefs.

Re: Where Do You Fall On The Political Spectrum?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 02, 2012 10:19 am
by WD-40
Matt-Chicago wrote:For WD-40
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Back at MC:

Federal Spending Balloons During Obama's Presidency: Opinion

By Anton Wahlman, Contributor07/10/12 - 12:44 PM EDT

NEW YORK (TheStreet) -- There are some claims that are so outrageous that they go beyond the pale. Recently there have been various statements that federal spending during the Obama presidency has either been cut or has risen very little.

One recent example was a graphic that went viral. The graphic summarized a MarketWatch column.

Politifact.com rated the claim in that graphic "mostly true."

But such claims about the budget couldn't be further from the truth.

The numbers are publicly available to prove it. All you have to do is apply some second-grade math.

The following Web page from The American Presidency Project provides numbers on U.S. federal spending: http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/data/budget.php.

The relevant data are near the bottom of the table, just above the reference footnotes.

Let's begin by determining the average spending per fiscal year during the 2002 through 2009 fiscal years. These outlays cover the administration of President George W. Bush.

(Note that each fiscal year begins on Oct. 1 of the previous year. So the 2002 fiscal year began on Oct. 1, 2001. Presidents typically submit budgets for the coming fiscal year on the first Monday in February.)

Outlays (the third column) go from $2.01 trillion in 2002 to $3.52 trillion in 2009. Add them all up and divide by eight, and you get an annual average of $2.60 trillion.

Then let's add up spending for the four years for which President Obama has submitted budgets. (Note: the fiscal 2013 budget has yet to be agreed upon by the White House and Congress, and numbers for fiscal 2012 and fiscal 2013 are estimates.)

For the first four Obama years, outlays average $3.66 trillion. That's a 41% increase over the average spending during the Bush years.

There are no two ways around this, folks. This is hard, cold math.

There is only one objection that can be made to these calculations. We are comparing an average of eight years (2002-2009 fiscal years) with an average of four years (2010-2013 fiscal years).

That's not fair, you say. You're darn right it's not fair! But for whom? The answer is that it depends on what federal government spending will be the next four years, so we can measure eight years over the previous eight years.

Source: http://www.thestreet.com/story/11611336/1/federal-spending-balloons-during-obamas-presidency-opinion.html