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Re: Election 2016

Postby (=DK=)Samonuh » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:38 am

Rand Paul is the only semi-rational candidate, but he won't secure the nomination. I will probably abstain from voting for President this election.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby (SWGO)SirPepsi » Wed Dec 02, 2015 6:20 am

I'm not a political analyst, but if I had to place money on the table, I'd wager that Rubio'll walk with the Republican Nomination. Jeb Bush has petered out, and too many "honest" conservatives are sick of what they can clearly see to be establishment politics. Trump or Carson would be the new natural mantle-bearers, but one is a showman and the other the most imbecilic intellectual in the country - the status quo will likely be preserved (Cruz is too flamboyant, Huckabee too limited in vision, and Fiorina too inexperienced).

Trump, I'm convinced, is attempting to make the GOP appear unpalatable as possible to the average American by conveying in plain language the real racist, elitist aims of conservative policies - in this way he's going to help Hillary (whom I dread) take the General, supposing she beats Sanders (whom I support wholeheartedly) in the Primaries.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby Darth Crater » Thu Dec 03, 2015 3:24 am

(SWGO)SirPepsi wrote:I'm not a political analyst, but if I had to place money on the table, I'd wager that Rubio'll walk with the Republican Nomination. Jeb Bush has petered out, and too many "honest" conservatives are sick of what they can clearly see to be establishment politics. Trump or Carson would be the new natural mantle-bearers, but one is a showman and the other the most imbecilic intellectual in the country - the status quo will likely be preserved (Cruz is too flamboyant, Huckabee too limited in vision, and Fiorina too inexperienced).

Trump, I'm convinced, is attempting to make the GOP appear unpalatable as possible to the average American by conveying in plain language the real racist, elitist aims of conservative policies - in this way he's going to help Hillary (whom I dread) take the General, supposing she beats Sanders (whom I support wholeheartedly) in the Primaries.

I don't think Trump is in this for anyone but Trump, honestly. It's true that he's a net negative for the Republicans, but I think that's just because he's playing to maximize his own brand instead of the party's.

Supposedly, this is the time of year when people start paying attention and becoming better informed about the candidates. It's possible the nativist/fascist lobby is just that strong, but more likely we'll see a drop in Trump's and Carson's numbers over the next couple months.

Meanwhile, the Democrat side is boring, as Hillary still holds a comfortable lead. And to be honest, I prefer her stance to Bernie's on several issues. Not all, obviously, but she's hardly the worst that could happen.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby WD-40 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 10:57 am

In 20-30 years, Sharia Law will dominate if Obama has his way.

Personally, I think the Media will decide the next Prez. Power of the Press!!
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Re: Election 2016

Postby Darth Crater » Thu Dec 03, 2015 12:53 pm

WD-40 wrote:In 20-30 years, Sharia Law will dominate if Obama has his way.

Personally, I think the Media will decide the next Prez. Power of the Press!!

We're seven years into the Obama presidency now. We're not a socialist dystopia, drones haven't come for your guns, we're not under Sharia law. Don't you think it's time to admit that Obama's just a typical Democrat, and that this stuff is all right-wing propaganda? The Republican Establishment/press complex are using you. They never believed any of that; they're just talking him up as the Great Enemy so that you'll do whatever they say in order to stop him.

That's a fairly common thing to do in politics, you'll notice. It's happening on both sides of this current election as well.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby WD-40 » Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:07 pm

Darth Crater wrote:
WD-40 wrote:In 20-30 years, Sharia Law will dominate if Obama has his way.

Personally, I think the Media will decide the next Prez. Power of the Press!!

We're seven years into the Obama presidency now. We're not a socialist dystopia, drones haven't come for your guns, we're not under Sharia law. Don't you think it's time to admit that Obama's just a typical Democrat, and that this stuff is all right-wing propaganda? The Republican Establishment/press complex are using you. They never believed any of that; they're just talking him up as the Great Enemy so that you'll do whatever they say in order to stop him.

That's a fairly common thing to do in politics, you'll notice. It's happening on both sides of this current election as well.

7 years of non-stop battles to 'prevent' his Socialist agenda you mean? If he had a crown and the unfettered authority of a King to use it, we would be more Socialist than the old USSR by now! Obama is no 'typical Democrat'. In fact, he shouldnt be classified as a Democrat at all. He is as far left leaning as a 'Liberal' can be. He set out, and has made achievements in 'fundamentaly changing' our country...not for the better either. And here this non-war loving President still managed to practically DOUBLE the National Debt in just 7 years than what the previous 43 Presidents had done before him in over 200+ years! How is that even possible...or acceptable?! And for him to have the gall to slam Bush 43 for his spending?! And, unlike any President before him, he has done his best to inflame the racial divide throughout the USA with his stupid, ignorant and ill-thought statements and actions beginning with beer-gate. Face it, the lib media protects his stupidity, even at their own demise as well as the rest of the nation.

Seems if Im being 'used' as you suggest, then I must be imagining his desire to let hundreds of thousands of illegal future Democratic voters (to include rapists, murderers and gang members) in from the Mexican boarder and tens of thousands of un-vettable Syrians in from overseas. So tell me how I can 'imagine' how we can prevent terrorists coming here with those masses who have no traceable personal history? The FBI Director has stated there is no way to do so, nor does the FBI have the resources to do it. Apparently, per Valarie Jarrett, Obama has some 'big plans' for his last year in oriface. Perhaps this is just a taste of whats to come...Ohhhh the power of that Executive Order pen. Seems far mightier than Congress. :-|

BTW, I'll take that Democratic rapist Bill Clinton over Obama any day! At least he did his best not to screw with the Capitalist Economy during his years in office.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby Darth Crater » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:17 pm

WD-40 wrote:7 years of non-stop battles to 'prevent' his Socialist agenda you mean? If he had a crown and the unfettered authority of a King to use it, we would be more Socialist than the old USSR by now! Obama is no 'typical Democrat'. In fact, he shouldnt be classified as a Democrat at all. He is as far left leaning as a 'Liberal' can be.

Ah, yes. They've "prevented" him from doing all these things. But, who's your only source for this information about these horrible things he was going to do? Why, the same people who want your praise for "stopping" them! See where I'm coming from here? Isn't it awfully convenient that they don't have to produce any actual evidence that Obama's trying to be the Socialist Kenyan Antichrist?

I'm not saying you have to like Obama; I have plenty of complaints about him myself. Just look at the actual facts, his actual record in office, and stop thinking of him as some sort of larger-than-life monster.

... And to get this back to 2016, this is why I think Bernie Sanders will lose if he gets to the general. Because, unlike Obama, the rhetoric WD's throwing around there will bite a lot more deeply.

I also see the renewed focus on terrorism (ISIS, refugees, etc) as a boost to the Republicans' chances this election. The refugees are clearly not a threat if you think about it, though. ISIS has actual resources; they don't need to go through the years of scrutiny to enter the USA as a refugee. They can just get quality fake (Egyptian?) passports, fly in on a tourist visa, and go about their evil business.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby WD-40 » Fri Dec 04, 2015 7:49 am

Darth Crater wrote:I'm not saying you have to like Obama; I have plenty of complaints about him myself. Just look at the actual facts, his ... And to get this back to 2016, this is why I think Bernie Sanders will lose if he gets to the general. Because, unlike Obama, the rhetoric WD's throwing around there will bite a lot more deeply.

Just trying to do my part in saving the USA from imploding from within. :whistling: I liken Obama to the 'Thermal Imploder' on Battlefront. Neat little device, seemingly harmless, but when it goes off...Holy sh!!t! Total wreckingball!
We'll just agree to disagree about Obama.

But regarding 2016, I believe the big non-stop focus will be immigration, where Trump has pounced on and has been successful. Even the 'legal' immigrants lean pro trump because they see their own jobs threatened and their own hard-fought battles to become 'legal' citizens reduced to a big joke due to this 'santuary' Obama his hell bent to give out to all the illegals.

Terrorism will be in the top two or three matters on voters minds as well. Trump is hot on that too compared to the other Candidates that are too PC to get his steam. Recently, Trump said "You have to take out their families too to stop them". That may be very well true, and many would quietly agree, but it is statements like that, that could hurt more than help, because many Americans look at their own families and see 'innocence' (even if Daddy is a terrorist), so it may not resonate quite like he wants it to.

Trump has also struck pay dirt slamming politicians in general referring to them as incompetent idiots, which resonates and reflects how so many people feel about DC, including the black community. Ive never seen blacks endorse a white candidate like that before, except maybe Bill Clinton to a certain degree.

Time will tell if Trump can keep the steam up and win the nomination, but unless the other Candidates can unite and stand behind the ultimate victor, even a sack of lying, useless [poo] like Hillary will be a challenge to beat since Democrats are pretty loyal to their party and will follow their candidate into the firey abyss if thats what it takes to say they've won. Trump's Achilles heal is his off the cuff statements that offend races and genders. If he can manage to keep that in check, he may cross the finish line in first place. If he doesnt, and goes third party, God help the USA, because it will be a Clinton, Bush, Ross Perot battlefest all over again.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby Darth Crater » Fri Dec 04, 2015 10:48 pm

WD-40 wrote:Terrorism will be in the top two or three matters on voters minds as well. Trump is hot on that too compared to the other Candidates that are too PC to get his steam. Recently, Trump said "You have to take out their families too to stop them". That may be very well true, and many would quietly agree, but it is statements like that, that could hurt more than help, because many Americans look at their own families and see 'innocence' (even if Daddy is a terrorist), so it may not resonate quite like he wants it to.

Trump has also struck pay dirt slamming politicians in general referring to them as incompetent idiots, which resonates and reflects how so many people feel about DC, including the black community. Ive never seen blacks endorse a white candidate like that before, except maybe Bill Clinton to a certain degree.

Time will tell if Trump can keep the steam up and win the nomination, but unless the other Candidates can unite and stand behind the ultimate victor, even a sack of lying, useless [poo] like Hillary will be a challenge to beat since Democrats are pretty loyal to their party and will follow their candidate into the firey abyss if thats what it takes to say they've won. Trump's Achilles heal is his off the cuff statements that offend races and genders. If he can manage to keep that in check, he may cross the finish line in first place. If he doesnt, and goes third party, God help the USA, because it will be a Clinton, Bush, Ross Perot battlefest all over again.

Yes, between Paris and Wednesday's attack, which is now being considered a terrorist action, this kind of foreign threat will be back to the forefront in the discussions. (Fully expect to see last Friday's terrorist attack on Planned Parenthood written off as "mental illness," however, as the guy wasn't Muslim.) Hardline, right-wing policies tend to do better in this sort of climate. Bernie and Hillary would have much preferred to keep the discussion focused on their strengths, domestic policy and the economy. Still, Hillary does have a reputation as a bit of a war hawk; perhaps she can jump rightward a bit and play into it?

I'm not sure Trump has the support among black voters that you're suggesting, though. In fact, the most recent news stories on the subject I remember were Trump supporting the beating of a Black Lives Matter activist and lying about having the endorsement of 100 black pastors. Feel free to argue that those are sensational descriptions of his actions; they may be. But these days, public perception is vital, and that's what black voters are seeing.
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Re: Election 2016

Postby Duel of Fates » Sun Dec 06, 2015 1:01 am

Hillary. A warhawk? She panders to public opinion and changes her tune when it is convenient. Most politicians are like this to some degree, but she takes it to a whole new level. (why she is not in jail, or indicted yet is beyond me)

I would rather have someone who makes a decision, good or bad, and stand behind it. That is leadership. Hillary, the Dems, and most of the Republicans do not have this trait. And that is one reason why our country is in the dire straight it is. Leaders who don't lead, don't take responsibility, and don't have honor. Present leadership included.
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