by ProfessorDreadNaught » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:03 am
MD your ability as a gunner in HA is not in question. The question is whether destroying an ammo droid is a warn/kick/ban offense. Nite, whether a player, an admin or George Lucas himself asks me to stop destroying ammo droids it doesn't make it an offense to be warn/kick/bann'd for. And to be even MORE specific MD, the reason you wanted the droids is so you can run around the enemy spawn dropping bombs for the vill to spawn into. By doing this you limit the areas i can run into, around etc. or else get tk'd by you. I wouldn't stand in front of you while you try to shoot down an enemy (as a gunner). I'd EXPECT to be TK'd. When I run toward the vill spawn and worry about being TK'd by a random bombs...it's like an Maul or GG or even Ayalla who just randomly mashes and swings without a care about teammates. THAT'S disruptive gameplay, and if too many people get hit by the idiot, you kick THEM.
I'm CONSTANTLY getting hit by teammate gunners with gunfire, bombs and missile explosions. The ammo droids aren't "Yours". Just because you use it doesn't mean the enemy doesn't also. Too often you are WORSE than the enemy when you (not just you, but most gunners) use a gun character. Your use of invul to help me specifically, can be counted on one finger. As to not tk/ks'ing that is a joke. I have taken more hits from you as a teammate than as an opponent when you gun. Unfortunately, you are NOT the worst offender. The multitude of noob idiots who follow your example and end up with more TKs than kills in a round is staggering. You are a good enough saber player to not need the run and hide approach of the gunner (no offense to laser or yanoda, you play different) and CERTAINLY don't need the middle eastern suicide bomber approach you seem to enjoy today. (BTW the wookie missile attack USING the sprint explosion effect is like the Israeli approach of an F16 missile attack on a Palestinian restaurant: "friendly casualties -oh well")
Back to the subject; asking me NOT to destroy the droid cause you are constantly running back to it is fine. According to the rules I was explicitly told, I am allowed to destroy the droid without risk of warn/kick/ban. If that is NOT the case, please amend the rules so it is clear. I have no problem with the admin. He does a good job. I believe he kicked me in good faith, believing that what I was doing falls under disruptive behavior. That being said, I think he made a mistake. I can't find the rule written anywhere and was told emphatically by an admin of high standing at SWGO that my behavior should not be considered disruptive to the level of warn/kick/ban. I would hope there aren't two sets of rules in play. One while admin A is on and another while admin B is on and I respect MD too much to think he would want to be seen operating that way. Please just make a ruling and amend the rules if necessary.
DOF: leave the trolling to ANYONE else, you suck at it.
imaim: I appreciate you quoting a rule I didn't break. Destroying an ammo droid does NOT impede a player or his movement. Destroying an ammo droid does NOT benefit the opposing team. I understand how you and MD could draw that conclusion, but I believe MattC and Mawk argued my point and came to the ruling I was informed of. It is NOT disruptive gameplay. If that ruling has changed, fine. Please include it in the rules. (Truly, the ONLY reason I use Ayalla is when i'm Fetted. I hate them with a PASSION and ENJOY the CRAP out of pulling them!)
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er. Ammo droids are team agnostic and can be a boon to both teams. I destroy them at every opportunity to deny their use to the enemy. I have been kicked by admins who believe this is disruptive gameplay. I have informed these admins that I was emphatically told it was ruled ok and that is why it is NOT in the list of infractions on the thread listed at the top of this post. For some reason they don't believe me and either won't seek clarification (and if I'm wrong, fix the rules) or are in some fashion rogue. Could the collective admins please come together (once again) on this issue and make a definitive ruling. Either include droid destruction as an offense in the rules or better educate all the admins on enforcement policy.
