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Postby andyowns » Tue Aug 14, 2012 6:42 am

how do you null because i keep hearing about it on no force servers can someone like post a video of them doing it or something that would be appreciated :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby THEWULFMAN » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:58 am

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Postby FaiL.? » Tue Aug 14, 2012 9:03 am

Wel here's a tip for it. On no-force servers, as a maul, do the sprint attack. Your enemy will be knocked down with a little bit of health left. Simply walk backwards, looking up and do a backslash. That will send him into the air.
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Postby Darth Crater » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:16 am

The null is basically this. Apply enough force to knock down your opponent before he hits you. It's easier to do with backslash, but with the right timing you can take someone out with a regular attack. I'll let someone who's studied the mechanics better explain how. Just know that you do not want to dash attack someone who can actually do this unless you've taken proper precautions.
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Postby FaiL.? » Tue Aug 14, 2012 10:39 am

Darth Crater wrote:The null is basically this. Apply enough force to knock down your opponent before he hits you. It's easier to do with backslash, but with the right timing you can take someone out with a regular attack. I'll let someone who's studied the mechanics better explain how. Just know that you do not want to dash attack someone who can actually do this unless you've taken proper precautions.

I only do the dash attack thingy on FFA no force.
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Postby KOko » Tue Aug 14, 2012 12:47 pm

There were a number of very good tutorial videos made by Zbad but seems he pulled em off Youtube now. Pity, one could see what indeed null means. And no, it is not dash or backslash, its entirely different move offen thought to be a glitch in the enjine. Basically put it is well timed single hit (just one left click) that may knock down your opponent.
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Postby TaTerToT » Tue Aug 14, 2012 4:16 pm

Null is one of my favorite and most-used strategies. To do what I call an advanced null, wait until your opponent arrives at you, then, look up as far as you can and backslash, if done properly your opponent will be stunned, and open to an easy finish-off. You don't have to look up, but it adds more power if you do. Here's a video of me nulling my friend at the Academy (I know it looks like I was t-bagging at the beginning but I was toggling my video on, yes, I have a weird layout lol) - http://www.xfire.com/video/59409a/ [0:14]
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Postby Darth Crater » Tue Aug 14, 2012 8:43 pm

KOko wrote:There were a number of very good tutorial videos made by Zbad but seems he pulled em off Youtube now. Pity, one could see what indeed null means. And no, it is not dash or backslash, its entirely different move offen thought to be a glitch in the enjine. Basically put it is well timed single hit (just one left click) that may knock down your opponent.

Yeah, I included backslash in it because it has the same effect, but the actual null is on a totally different level. If there's no videos of it, maybe you could hang around FFA servers until you see someone from the old days and ask them to demonstrate, andy?
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Re: null

Postby Eyes Only » Tue Aug 21, 2012 10:45 pm

KOko wrote:There were a number of very good tutorial videos made by Zbad but seems he pulled em off Youtube now. Pity, one could see what indeed null means. And no, it is not dash or backslash, its entirely different move offen thought to be a glitch in the enjine. Basically put it is well timed single hit (just one left click) that may knock down your opponent.


Not a glitch in the engine, each saber strike has a push property attached to it (defined in the combo file), just enough to stun/trip your opponent. Same deal with the arccaster and force push/pull. "Null" isn't an accurate description for the move, the most accurate word to describe it would be "trip".
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Re: null

Postby ProfessorDreadNaught » Wed Aug 22, 2012 12:20 am

Eyes Only wrote:
KOko wrote:There were a number of very good tutorial videos made by Zbad but seems he pulled em off Youtube now. Pity, one could see what indeed null means. And no, it is not dash or backslash, its entirely different move offen thought to be a glitch in the enjine. Basically put it is well timed single hit (just one left click) that may knock down your opponent.


Not a glitch in the engine, each saber strike has a push property attached to it (defined in the combo file), just enough to stun/trip your opponent. Same deal with the arccaster and force push/pull. "Null" isn't an accurate description for the move, the most accurate word to describe it would be "trip".


Closest response yet, but off the mark. Eyes is correct that it has to do with the "push" effect inherent in any saber attack. The key is the direction of the push in relation to the enemies movement.

It's referred to as a "null" (truely misnamed) because it interrupts a dash or dash attack. Any saber attack that's directed push strikes a dashing (or dash attacking) opponent at a greater than 45 degree angle will immediately stun the dashing opponent. Simply put, the push in your single saber attack is greater than that of the dashing enemy and stuns them. You can still receive damage from the opponents attack, but it is mathematically impossible for him to stun you (kill you, yes..stun, no).

The best way to achieve this is a with a saber attack combined with a slight movement lateral to your opponent just before his dash would contact you. Leggz and i0n would refer to them as "olé" instead of "null" (which is just as nonsensical, but at least it matched the bullfighting visual)
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