serious problems with an admin

[The_Eradicator]

It looks like we are having some issues with Leo or BigLeo, whatever his name is...

First, he randomly switches the maps, because "he doesnt like them" ... without even asking those who were in game
Then, because we complained, warned us...

Then he banned L'Atsch_Betsch for one day because L'atsch can't speak proper english, so he adds 'tsch" at the end of every words a but like the STODGE do with the "Z" at the end of their words... HOW does that disturb others??? HOW IS THAT FORBIDDEN ? well i'd like to know

and of course when i saw that, i was shocked, so I asked explainations... he wouldnt ansvered, so I got mad and asked again with another tone and i got banned for 1 week !!!! INCREDIBLE !!!

and all of that , for l'atsch and I were done WITHOUT WARNING !!!!

then a friend of mine told me it was Leo who did that , so when i saw him in game , i asked him why... his ansver was simple " I am all powerful and I do what I want" ...Thats what he said in front of 34 players!! (he said it in french , because we are french)...

I am sorry, but this is the FIRST TIME i see such behaviour from an admin... I suggest actions are taken against him

Blackdiamond The Eradicator...

[JROD]

First of all, I would like to say that I saw you on Jedi Battle Arena constantly complaining about BigLeo. If you have an issue with an admin, you should take it here and not continuously complain about them on the game servers.
Whenever he switched the maps, are you sure that they weren't maps like kashyyk or endor that cause everyone to lag? Are you sure a glitcher didn't ruin the map and cause him to have to end the game?
Are you sure that L'Atsch_Betsch was not trying to use bad language and evade the language filter by adding certain phonetic endings?
Are you sure that you didn't fill your desire for an explanation with various profanities or degrading statements about admins or others?
In my opinion, the statement about an admin being "all powerful" is perfectly fine. That can be taken as funny when used in the right context. I and others say things similar to this at times.

I do not know exactly what happened today, since I do not understand French. However, my logs show you repeatedly complaining about Leo in English and then taking it to French. I would highly advise you not to bash another admin's actions in public game servers. However, if you can honestly answer "yes" to all of the above questions, then perhaps the situation could be closer examined. Also, I checked the JBA banlist, and there are no bans for either of you...
-JROD

[Doves]

Also, I checked the JBA banlist, and there are no bans for either of you...
-JROD

Blackdiamond got a week ban a few weeks back

[Bailey]

Hmm it sounds to me like some of the things you said are being taken out of context. I think we just have to wait and hear Leo's side to this story. Please do not bash or complain about it repeatedly on the servers though. If you have a further issue feel free to post it here.

[The_Eradicator]

the map was felucia and we were like 6 players... no risk for major lag

plus my brother is among the nicest guys i ever know . henever swears

so i say a loud YES to all of these

[Matt-Chicago]

I have looked through the logs of the last few days and see no incident like you've described, involving Big Leo. What day and approximate time did this take place?

[The_Eradicator]

i was logged as blackdiamond

[BigLeo]

First of all BlackDiamond... do not speak ever you don't know me... we were friends I build the ERAD website 2 years ago... we shared our msn and you know my real name... so your first complain about Leo or BigLeo is small argument !We know us ! and all that proove is I can boot someone I know ever if it's a french, ever if it's a friend when this friend direspect game rules.

We begin to speak about what devide us.
I didn't "randomly switches map" as you said... the nextmap was FELUCIA... it's not a map include in SWGO map... certainly someone add it by mistake...
FELUCIA map always make people leaving SWGO to SP because of lagg.
but watch the logs :

30/09/2009 16:22:27 : Client: Run next map.
30/09/2009 16:22:28 : Server: Next map run.
30/09/2009 16:22:49 : #[BlackDiamond] why ?
30/09/2009 16:22:49 : Server: User admin at server said '*Please respect our rules and other players'
30/09/2009 16:22:53 : #[BlackDiamond] WF stupidadmin ut feluciaack
30/09/2009 16:22:59 : #[.2124th(lt)zara] UH
30/09/2009 16:22:59 : #[Starkiller] what just happend?
30/09/2009 16:23:05 : #[BlackDiamond] pu felucia back, stupid admin
30/09/2009 16:23:20 : #[BlackDiamond] i will report you, you iidiot admin
30/09/2009 16:23:49 : #[Rambo] admin is a b****h
30/09/2009 16:24:09 : Server: User admin at server said '*All stats for this server have been reset, can you be #1?'
30/09/2009 16:24:09 : #[BlackDiamond] heyadmin why yuo id that?
30/09/2009 16:24:09 : #[cryptonic#kromb] wasn lagserver
30/09/2009 16:24:29 : #[L'Atsch_Betsch] he is so not an atsch betsch boys! he is so stupidtsch! eh wet

He doesn't let me 4 seconds to answer why I skip the map.. .he ever call me "stupid admin" and then "idiot"

Now we will talk about "L'atsch Betsch" :
Since half an hour he was writing like an idiot... using "tsch" at the end of each words in each sentences in french and english... of course it's not really important...
But I want to tell you each days I spend more than 3 hours of my life admining this game... some players come here to play and relax, and some other come in SWBF to say [poo] and disrupt gameplay.
Tired to read Atsch Betsch sentence I decide to ban him 1 day :

Player L'Atsch_Betsch (c5e744ab5aed4ef52277a79dc7efe181) banned by bigleo until Thu Oct 01 16:24:59 2009 for 1 day.
30/09/2009 16:24:59 : Client: Said 'L'Atsch_Betsch banned for 1 day'.

Now you can read the BlackDiamond answer :

30/09/2009 16:25:24 : #[BlackDiamond] why was atsch betsc banned?
30/09/2009 16:25:47 : #[Rambo] dunno
30/09/2009 16:25:49 : #[BlackDiamond] ADMIN WT why was latsc besc anned?
30/09/2009 16:26:07 : #[BlackDiamond] admin why was l'tschbesh banned?
30/09/2009 16:26:22 : #[BlackDiamond] olu fucin SUCK admin
30/09/2009 16:26:33 : #[BlackDiamond] you SUCK adin why was my brother banedN?
30/09/2009 16:26:37 : Server: User admin at server said '*This server is managed by SWBF2SM from blackbagops.com'
30/09/2009 16:26:38 : Player BlackDiamond (87ab727b33fe2f0bc1fee16a3a6f43d9) banned by bigleo until Wed Oct 07 16:26:38 2009 for Disrespecting Others or the Admin (1 week).
30/09/2009 16:26:38 : Client: Said 'BlackDiamond banned for Disrespecting Others or the Admin (1 week)'.
30/09/2009 16:26:38 : Client: Ban player BlackDiamond.
30/09/2009 16:26:39 : Server: Admin message sent.
30/09/2009 16:26:39 : Server: Player BlackDiamond banned.
30/09/2009 16:26:39 : Server: Banlist has been updated.
30/09/2009 16:27:17 : Server: User admin at server said '*Welcome to the Jedi Battle Arena!'
30/09/2009 16:27:29 : #[Rambo] admin is a suker for booting peolr or no reason whatsoever
30/09/2009 16:27:44 : Player Rambo (900f3df86330b9cfa263de0441339ccd) banned by bigleo until Wed Oct 07 16:27:44 2009 for Disrespecting Others or the Admin (1 week).
30/09/2009 16:27:44 : Client: Said 'Rambo banned for Disrespecting Others or the Admin (1 week)'.
30/09/2009 16:27:44 : Client: Ban player Rambo.
30/09/2009 16:27:45 : Server: Admin message sent.
30/09/2009 16:27:45 : Server: Player Rambo banned.

That's what's happened...
I assume my choice to boot L'astch betsch... and I don't want to be injure by player ... but more of all I think I don't have to justifiy my choice ingame...
Chat game is for "the game"... when player will understand that... this game will work better.

Now at the end BDiamond write
then a friend of mine told me it was Leo who did that , so when i saw him in game , i asked him why... his ansver was simple " I am all powerful and I do what I want" ...Thats what he said in front of 34 players!! (he said it in french , because we are french)...

First of all I assume my choice in front of 34 players... but in front off all SWGO players and admins... I'm an adult.
Ripley was admining she certainly has the log too :

11/10/2009 19:13:35 : #[BigLeo] si j'ai envie de changer de map... on ne m'insulte pas
>> if I wan't to change map... you don't have to injure me.

11/10/2009 19:13:50 : #[Blackdiamond_Th] tu n'es pas tout puissant
>> you don't have all power

11/10/2009 19:13:58 : #[BigLeo] ici je le suis
>> here I am

I'm agree with my "way of life" and I write in front of you all ... I HAVE ALL POWER AGAINST PLAYER WHO DISRESPECT OTHER.

Why I play since years in this game, in this server with people who are always gentle with other... and we never boot other who injure other players or admins for no real reason ?
For myself it's unacceptable !

And for the end I want to told you all... I ever warn BlackDiamond to Haasdog 2 years ago... (certainly no one have the log now)... but I tell Haasdog to watch him because BD was injuring other in French to bypass banned english word...
Of course BD is fluent in english and can assume this language... also if it's bad language.. but maybe assuming is reserve for adult... and BD your are so far from that !

Leo

[haasd0gg]

Leo, Im sorry you even had to respond to this.
Thanks black diamond, for lying to us and wasting our time and webspace.
If it were up to me I'd let this shmuck find a new server to play on.

[Bailey]

Wait actually I'm a little confused what the first person did wrong. It might be annoying to put random things onto ends of words but is it against the rules? Did you warn him to stop putting the additions to the ends of words before you banned him for a day?

BD disrespecting admins is against the rules. Calling him an idiot and then cursing at him was highly uncalled for and was a very valid reason for him to ban you.