The Muslims aren't happy

[Dad]

"Mankind will not achieve its potential until the last brick from the last church falls and kills the last priest." - some french dude.

I feel this way about all religions, they should be banned from existence.

[toad]

Kleptocracy , just another attempt to take a slash at Obama. Hence why he is front and center in the picture. The pic would be right if Cheney was in it.

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What have all this to do with swbf2 or swgo?

[Duel of Fates]

What have all this to do with swbf2 or swgo?

None---hence the "Non Game Discussion" at the top of the page.

[WD-40]

Kleptocracy , just another attempt to take a slash at Obama. Hence why he is front and center in the picture. The pic would be right if Cheney was in it.

Toad...it's not just Obama...although that Progressive know-nothing prick does alot more harm, than good. Anyone who surrounds themself with so many 'czars', does NOT know what the he'll he's doing. But he's somewhat qualified to run a campaign. Wow... It's all basically about ALL those career minded Congressional/Senatorial azz-wipes that are still in office.

Term limits!...that's what we need! Then those that are there will serve 'the people', instead of 'themselves'!

[burzerker]

Well it seems the US is to blame again for all the bad in the world.. we support bad people.. well we also supported Stalin against Hitler, Stalin was far worse than Hussein and the other mid-east dictators combined, would anyone question that the decision to do that was wrong??? There are times that we have to decide between bad and worse, the mid-east dictators that we supported (ie Egypt) weren't out slaughtering their citizens like the one in Syria (whose wife had a glorifying write up in Vogue I believe just before the uprising) and for the most part kept peace with Israel. As for Gaza, the "palestinians" have a homeland, it's called Jordan. too bad Jordan didn't want them. There is only one thing that will make the Muslims in that region happy and that is to see the end of Israel, a two state solution would be welcomed by the Israelies, but when it is proposed the "palestinians" reject it because it allows an Israeli state. Frankly I'm amased that Israel has held back it's fist as long as it has, getting bombarded by rockets regularly and suicide bombers should result in far worse than has been dished out so far.

[Duel of Fates]

I think that if all of the radical Imams would take a day off, shower and shave, go out to the local pub, knock back a few drinks and get themselves laid, the Muslim world would be a happier place. But I oversimplify . . .

[haasd0gg]

"Mankind will not achieve its potential until the last brick from the last church falls and kills the last priest." - some french dude.

I feel this way about all religions, they should be banned from existence.

Yer goddam right!

[Mandalore]

Just a small reply to Berserker or whoever it was. The idea of a "homeland" is quite absurd. I would venture a guess that 90% of people could not trace their lineage back two centuries, let alone two thousand years. While I do prefer the Jews over the Muslims, to say that they have a God given right to that land is absurd and intellectually questionable at best.

As for Muslims not being happy, I don't see any statistics backing that claim up. I would agree with some dude who posted earlier that these fervent theists are more likely happy than the irreligious, ignorance is bliss after all. The scary thing about Muslims, is that Mohammad figured out the last key to the monotheistic puzzle, he made his holy book stick as uninterpretable (many hard line Muslims are required to memorize the Quran, and the book states that its relevance is protected by God). Really, this is the key difference between Islam and the other two monotheistic religions besides some trifling organizational policies that were quite advanced for their time.

[Matt-Chicago]

Toad I appreciate your honesty about not caring about the plight of Gazans but have no idea what you're talking about regarding it.

Most people in Gaza are refugees from what is now Israel, while some others are native Gazans and Egyptians.
No war has ever been launched from Gaza. I am definitely impartial to this issue, having worked with Palestinians for almost two decades and having many friends, some of them close friends from here - killed in Gaza.
I don't like the military wing of Hamas, but there are millions of innocent people there who have been terrorized for generations. You don't hear about the Palestinians killed there on a daily basis, the tens of thousands of homes destroyed, the daily sonic booms over Gaza meant only to terrorize, etc.
I have two very close friends getting on a boat going to Gaza right now. Anyways...

Burzerker I wish I knew where you came up with your material. Kren you kind of state things along the same lines, assuming the "West" just wants to do right by people but it's hard and it's complicated. The facts of the er are we have supported dictatorship over democracy, time and time and time again. Why? Because dictatorships are more reliable, they can be coaxed into making the "right" decisions which will benefit the strategic interests of the west. Democracy can be much more messy, they might not always do the "right" thing, and therefore all over the world, especially Latin America, Asia, and the middle east - we have worked hard, spent trillions, and killed millions to try to prevent democracy.

Some mention Iraq - he slaughtered millions right? Who did he slaughter? Mainly Iranians, with chemical weapons. Who coaxed him to do that, gave him chem and bio precursors, special equipment for outfitting helicopters to spray chem weapons, satellite intel of where and how to hit? The US. What was our reaction when he gassed Iranians? To block a UN reslution condemning him for it and Reagan offering him more support. What was our reaction when he gassed Kurds? The US blocked the UN from condemning him for it.

Iraq is just one example - look at what's going on now. In Yemen we are propping up a dictator everyone wants to go. In Bahrain which is probably the worst crackdown going on right now - where they are literally rounding up, torturing, and jailing for life doctors and nurses who treated injured protesters. What has been our response to this, in the country where the 5th fleet is based? We sold weapons and training to Saudi Arabia and gave them the green light to go help Bahrain put down the democracy protests.

Many of you talk like this stuff is ancient past - but it's still going on today.

Oh Egypt - the military and secret police we supported for so long - notorious for torture and disappearances - that's a win? Obama supported Mubarak until the bitter end, and they know it. We were not an ally for democratic change - we almost never are.

Edit -
One of the really great things about the Arab Spring is how little religion is involved in it. It has proven that Al-Qaeda methods are not the path to change - popular nonviolent struggle is the path. I think in 50 years there will not be a dictatorship left in the region.