Why MT doesn't believe in this.

[Yanoda]

No. No. [m'kay] NO.
I've been in that minefield, and i'll be [m'kay] if i'm going to prance through it again. I will say that I believe in reincarnation, and that's about it. Not saying i'm a Buddhist or anything, although i'd like to be; thing is, it's kinda hard to be a Buddhist and have a computer at the same time, considering that they're pretty much as at odds as things get.

I've been up for a while, sorry if my sentence structure is made of [poo].

Very well, though just by typing the comment you already contributed to the Topic

Yanoda, you side-stepped that one big time.

How so? Maybe I didn't write it correctly...
What I meant is that these experiences could be dreams. I had a few out of body dreams that seemed real. Haven't you have a dream were you thought it was real as well?
Researchers are trying to understand what happens when a human dies. They say that the tunnel with light could be the process of cellular death within the brain, causing bright 'images' to appear. They also say that the body tries to ease the process of death on the organism and/or mind. The topic is still not fully understood to be fair, but saying these experiences indicate a higher being is quite a claim.
Humans in the past claimed to have been able to communicate with the Gods using special rituals etc. Researchers found that the people used plants/drugs that caused hallucinations, making them belief they are communicating with the Gods. To this, researchers theorize that the process of death could have similar effects on the mind.

I suppose with the Bible, many have a huge problem with the first chapter at the beginning where it mentions God created the Heaven and Earth in '6 days'. I believe that poses some disbelief in that given the complexity and vastness of our Planet, that it just doesn't seem comprehensible...I mean 6 days?! That's only 134 hours! I get that skepticism. I think it's misinterpreted. And I believe it affects their opinion of the entire Bible as a result of that one passage.
What I mean is, who's to say that 1 day for God isn't equivalent to 1 million years to mankind?...or 10 million or 100 million? Just food for thought.

Why didn't the Bible just mention the years exactly? Like I said in previous posts, that the Bible is very open to interpretation.
Well, we know that the Earth is about 4.5 Billion years old using radiometric dating. So why didn't God/The Bible state that 1 day to God is almost equivalent to 1 billion years? That would have been much more accurate to what many say the Earth was 6000 years old and the like. I would say that over 2000 years ago, people were not able to comprehend the vast time scales (or didn't know any better) and used the days (where the Bible says 1 day to God is 1000 years for humans) to make it easier for the people at the time to imagine it.
This is what makes it difficult for me (and for many others) to consider the Bible as a source for facts.

Great posts Yanoda (for the most part).

Thanks for the compliment. Please let me know of anything that I may not have conveyed well. I do not wish to cause confusion (like with my previous post with WD).

I have a feeling that if I contribute to this thread, I may create a huge [poo] storm.

How so? This is a discussion where different sides present their argument as to why they hold their position. It can get heated sometimes but that's to be expected.

Cheers

Yanoda

Edit: We passed the 60% mark to 50 pages! Congrats!

[(SWGO)SirPepsi]

Why didn't the Bible just mention the years exactly? Like I said in previous posts, that the Bible is very open to interpretation.
Well, we know that the Earth is about 4.5 Billion years old using radiometric dating. So why didn't God/The Bible state that 1 day to God is almost equivalent to 1 billion years? That would have been much more accurate to what many say the Earth was 6000 years old and the like. I would say that over 2000 years ago, people were not able to comprehend the vast time scales (or didn't know any better) and used the days (where the Bible says 1 day to God is 1000 years for humans) to make it easier for the people at the time to imagine it.
This is what makes it difficult for me (and for many others) to consider the Bible as a source for facts.

I think I can agree with you here. I find it hard to look to a source written thousands of years ago, and edited many times over the centuries as viable proof. I develop my own beliefs based upon the evidence given. I am not, to contradict 40's statement earlier. an Atheist, though neither will I succumb to blind faith in things that have been disproven by fact. What is so difficult about the question: Do you believe in God? is the fact that people have many alternate definitions for the word "God." Some may think of he/she/it in the sense of higher power, whereas others may believe it to be a supernatural force, or others still, the universe in and of itself, and so on and so on. I don't think that believing in God and in evolution are mutually exclusive. What I do say, is that religion has NOTHING TO DO with God. I know I am off topic, but this is a ridiculously long thread and I feel like we can move on to this subject--if only for a short while.

Anyways, as I was saying earlier, religion and God are two completely different things. Religion is corrupted belief and customs, whereas God is, like I said earlier, different to everyone. Religion is fallible, God (most believe) is pure.

Thoughts?

[Yanoda]

Interesting video I found talking about Atheism, Theism & Agnosticism.

Enjoy

Cheers

Yanoda

[(SWGO)SirPepsi]

Interesting video I found talking about Atheism, Theism & Agnosticism.

Enjoy

Cheers

Yanoda

Very interesting! I enjoyed it very much, thank you for finding the video!

[haasd0gg]

I've floated over my body on nitrous. The brain can play all sorts of funny tricks on you.

[Yanoda]

Very interesting! I enjoyed it very much, thank you for finding the video!

Make sure to watch the other videos from the same user as well, very informative and enjoyable.

I've floated over my body on nitrous. The brain can play all sorts of funny tricks on you.

Indeed it does. I would say that one should not trust your brain, but that would mean that you can't trust yourself. This in turn would imply that everything you experience should not be trusted as well. This can go very philosophical and yet, should not be trusted either...

Cheers

Yanoda

[WD-40]

What I do say, is that religion has NOTHING TO DO with God.

Anyways, as I was saying earlier, religion and God are two completely different things.

Almost every religion I've ever heard of, invokes there's a God, some Supreme Being, or even some Higher power. To say 'Nothing' to do with God?? Sure.

Religion is corrupted belief and customs, whereas God is, like I said earlier, different to everyone. Religion is fallible, God (most believe) is pure.
Thoughts?[/color]

You said the word 'Belief"…Belief in what or who exactly?

And as far as 'why' the Bible writers didn't put 'Millions of years' vs '1 day', you would need to ask the Bible writers. I'm not going to over-analyze the why. I just stated one possible interpretation, and that this one statement possibly screwed up the logical analysis of those that have read the Bible, and what they want to believe, but have issues with how this and other stories within it are interpreted.

[11_Panama_]

Don't believe that crap that we evolved from apes. If thats true....then why are there still apes around?...why have THEY not evolve along with us? and remember folks...Darwin was a Coke head..nuff said.

[THEWULFMAN]

Don't believe that crap that we evolved from apes. If thats true....then why are there still apes around?...why have THEY not evolve along with us? and remember folks...Darwin was a Coke head..nuff said.

Actually study paleontology and how evolution works, then come back.

To clear up Mr. Uninformed's misconception:
Humans and apes evolved from a common ancestor. So technically, we didn't evolve from modern apes. The common ancestor is extinct.
Hope that clears up one of the biggest and most common misconceptions people have about evolution.

[11_Panama_]

Darwin is still a coke head...did you study that too?..All jokes aside....Evolution is a joke....I'm supposed to believe in countless "coincidences"? The astronamical chances of random incidents happening at the right time, during "ideal" conditions? If science has so much knowledge of this why have they not recreated it?.....In theory, we should by right be God's ourselves....recreate life from nothing.