New Challenger Space Shuttle explosion video surfaced

[THEWULFMAN]

This'll be interesting.

Yes it will.

Some people need a good smack.

I'll never understand why people say stuff like this. Obviously they didn't know, why should they be smacked? They didn't do anything wrong.

Sorry Wulf…I'm sure I meant to say: "Wulfman needs a good smack"


...And I didn't mean she needed a 'beating'...just a small thump on the top of her head (26 years ago with a rubber mallet) that's all.

If I didn't have more pressing ers to attend to, I'd ask why she needs to be struck in any er shape or form.

I suppose Wulfman needs to watch the History Channel more.

No actually, I don't. I watch it plenty enough, well, I used to. Nowadays I only bother with Modern Marvels as the History Channel has hit the [poo] with nothing but Ice Road Truckers, Ax Men, and all those other [poo] shows that have no business being on that channel.

It has been 'proven' that the O-rings in the boosters shrunk during the very cold temperatures prior to launch. During the launch, super-heated gases/flames escaped from the O-ring on one of the boosters. The 'flame' was clearly seen on NASA launch video as coming out of the booster, and hitting the side of the large brown Nitrogen/oxygen fuel tank. By the time they said "Go for throttle-up", it super-heated the chemical mixture of the fuel tank to a point that it...wait for it Wulf...'exploded', thereby ripping the solid rocket boosters from there mountings (hence the 2 separate vapor trails), and of course tearing the shuttle apart.

No shockwave, no explosion. All I see is deflagration, I don't see a detonation. Think of it this way. You have a campfire, you throw 5 gallons of gasoline on the fire. That's basically want happened. Highly oversimplified of course.

If you want to see where I get this information, allow me to direct you to an online version of the NASA Documentary. It can explain it in a more technical way that I do not care to transcribe as I am still helping my mom out at the hospital and I hardly have time for that. http://www.archive.org/details/ChallengerAccidentandInvestigation In particular, watch between 22:36 and 32:00 or so. Also another important part to my point is between 37:43 and 38:26. It's a great doc and I highly recommend watching all of it. Not that my [m'kay] opinion means anything of course.

Now, whether they were alive still at water impact is anybody's guess as no audio of screams from the shuttle where released to the public.

Either you did not read all that I wrote, or ignored it. I mentioned that "some" (being 3 of 4) of the "emergency air supply canisters" (technically term Personal Egress Air Pack) were activated. They do not activate autonomously, they require to be manually turned on. Also the amount consumed of the canister is consistent with the two minute and 45 second long descent before hitting the water.

In conclusion, at least some of them were indeed alive by all likelihood. I consider myself a very dumb, uneducated person. One of the few things I know well is astronomy and human exploration of space.

Only partially read Wulf's [m'kay]-up response.

Thanks for that by the way. In case you didn't notice, I wasn't attacking you (besides the thing about smacking the woman, but that's another er). I was attacking the article you linked to. I happen to have respected you, and still do (slightly less so after being insulted for no good reason). I knew from the past you're an intelligent person.

[Commander Sparrow]

And then she said "That was the biggest penis I have ever seen!" and then I said "I know! That's why I brought you to the penis museum, where tickets cost a thousand dollars"

[WD-40]

Well...respect is nice, but it isn't what I seek. Regarding the 'explosion' Wulf, I suppose, technically, we are talking 2 separate 'types' of explosion. I believe you speak of some type of 'fuel or accelerant' based fireball explosion. The 'explosion' I refer to, is the solid rocket booster flame super-heating the Nitrogen/oxygen gas inside the center tank, which eventually reached critical mass and burst the tank apart (exploded) and destroyed the shuttle with it.

And BTW, sorry for the insult.

[THEWULFMAN]

Regarding the 'explosion' Wulf, I suppose, technically, we are talking 2 separate 'types' of explosion. I believe you speak of some type of 'fuel or accelerant' based fireball explosion. The 'explosion' I refer to, is the solid rocket booster flame super-heating the Nitrogen/oxygen gas inside the center tank, which eventually reached critical mass and burst the tank apart (exploded) and destroyed the shuttle with it.

Eh... not quite. Again, the tank didn't "explode" at all, it'd be better to say it tore apart rather than exploded or burst apart. I'm not 100% sure on the exact nature of the tank failure, but from what I gathered it was external failures (specifically the before mentioned SRB plume and wind shear like never before experianced on any previous shuttle launch) causing holes in the tanks which became larger and larger very rapidly. This can be seen as more and more plumes became visible on the tank itself. I've seen no evidence of it being a single "burst" of the tank. There was a resulting fireball "explosion" (not quite in the conventional sense, but it's close enough) after all that liquid hydrogen spilled out. However again, the Shuttle was not destroyed for any sort of explosion or fireball. but rather than severe aerodynamic forces that ripped the shuttle apart. Refer to 38:18 minutes into that documentary. The shuttle was sheared apart as it turned into the mach 2 airstream, putting it under strain it was not designed to handle.

And BTW, sorry for the insult.

Apology accepted, Captain Needa.

(Just kidding, but really no hard feelings)

EDIT:
To make this clear, this isn't about me being right. I just want the real facts to be known one way or another. Those men and woman deserve that much after NASA screwed up and lost their lives. Their deaths were avoidable by a long shot.

[burzerker]

Hmm there's a few minutes I'll never get back.. Why is Wulf wasting our time with petty minor details? I guess it's my fault for actually taking the time to read it. Perhaps I need a smack for thinking there might be some comment worth reading there.