More random political spamming

[WD-40]

Well...Let it be said, and you watch, Obama will not and cannot possibly hope to run on his record because it is so horrid. Therefore, he will attack, attack and attack his opponent to discredit him (Romney?) in an effort to convince the American voters that he (Obama) is the 'lesser' of 2 evils. Precisely what he said his opponents would do to him 4 years ago. But Obama is just too clueless and arrogant to think his [poo] don't stink and he's the greatest thing ever for America. I just pray there isn't enough stupid people out there to give him another 4 years. If he gets another term, watch out. He won't have to worry about re-election, and he'll pull out all the stops to really [m'kay] things up. We will be screwed. Romney...although certainly not the best choice to run the country...is at lest experienced enough to know what he's doing. How well he actually would do...well...that's anybody's guess, but it will be better than Obama.

You know...we need a 'Politics' Index for stuff like this.

[Dad]

Well...Let it be said, and you watch, Obama will not and cannot possibly hope to run on his record because it is so horrid. Therefore, he will attack, attack and attack his opponent to discredit him (Romney?) in an effort to convince the American voters that he (Obama) is the 'lesser' of 2 evils. Precisely what he said his opponents would do to him 4 years ago. But Obama is just too clueless and arrogant to think his [poo] don't stink and he's the greatest thing ever for America. I just pray there isn't enough stupid people out there to give him another 4 years. If he gets another term, watch out. He won't have to worry about re-election, and he'll pull out all the stops to really [m'kay] things up. We will be screwed. Romney...although certainly not the best choice to run the country...is at lest experienced enough to know what he's doing. How well he actually would do...well...that's anybody's guess, but it will be better than Obama.

You know...we need a 'Politics' Index for stuff like this.

I've heard Romney intends to invade Iran and his record for destroying American companies and costing middle class folks their jobs makes him just as bad as Obama.

There has to be an independent out there somewhere. I'd rather vote for Mickey Mouse than either of these to scumbags.

[Yanoda]

@ Dad,
How is Obama racist based on the quote? What actions has he done to be considered racist?
Despite the Tenets being questionable, this should in no way disqualify Romney from running for President.

@WD-40
Saying one President has a great or terrible record is very subjective to the individuals views.
I can list many aspects where Obama has a good record and also a bad record. This includes all the previous Presidents.
What is wrong with Obama going on the offensive (if he's doing that)? The other Candidates have been doing that the past few months and they aren't being called out.
Calling Obama "arrogant" and "clueless", as well as claiming he'll "[m'kay] thing up" is quite an exaggeration. Obama's opponents said that he will [m'kay] the USA and we can kiss the USA goodbye when he was elected in 2008 . Guess what, nothing of the sort has happened. The economy is 'starting' to recover and/or stabilize. We're still the same USA as we were 4 years ago.
We cannot say if Romney will be a better President or not compared to Obama. I can also list several things that indicate Romney is not a better candidate than Obama (also subjective).
Sorry, but using fear tactics (like "we'll be screwed" and "he'll pull out all the stops") should not be used in politics, elections or just out of principle. Saying "stupid people vote for him" is quite insulting for many Americans and should not be used to support one's position (it's also a weak argument).

Cheers

Yanoda

[WD-40]

Calling Obama "arrogant" and "clueless", as well as claiming he'll "[m'kay] thing up" is quite an exaggeration.

No...it's a fact! Read about it. Besides, Obama truly lacks any business or Government experience other than what he's learned since becoming President...and that ain't much. Even today, he really doesn't know what he's doing. Case in point, the 'Keystone Pipeline'. He's against it. Is there anything wrong with sending the oil and jobs to the US?
Maybe you're right...'Clueless' might be the wrong word. Maybe Obama knows exactly what he's doing and is deliberately leading our country toward fiscal disaster.
And Yanni...you don't live here. How could you possibly know what we feel and think other than what you read or see from the liberal journalist crap online or on the TV?? You can't pass judgement on what WE AMERICANS experience and feel. It's your opinion from across the Atlantic Ocean in another country. To say the WE AMERICANS don't know how we feel and what we experienced is, in itself, arrogant. WE (The USA) can do better! And we can certainly do a lot better than Obama. We need someone who knows what they are doing! Obama isn't that person!

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[Dad]

Yanoda, by Obama opening his mouth, with any opinion whatsoever, regarding a racially charged case is just stirring the pot. The facts of the case were not even remotely clear when he made that statement. Every black rights group or person now has the support of our own president (in their own minds).

I think we all know my opinions of religion in general, but..... (ANY politician who espouses their religion should automatically be removed from office/disqualified from running)

The tenets of mormonism are some of the most fantastical and insane I have ever had the displeasure to read. You HAVE to be mentally deficient to regard ANY of mormonism to be remotely credible. I, for one, do not want a raving lunatic in office as our president.

Either one of these meatheads gets elected, you can kiss the middle class goodbye. The are following the corporate play book, instituted by Reagan and followed by every president and congress since. 1984 was meant as a warning, not a blueprint and the sheep and cattle of this country don't even see it coming.....

"So this is how freedom dies, with thunderous applause." - Senator Amidala

[Yanoda]

No...it's a fact! Read about it. Besides, Obama truly lacks any business or Government experience other than what he's learned since becoming President...and that ain't much.

He studied law in Harvard and University of Chicago. He's a Constitutional Law Professor. He was Senator of Illinois from 1997-2008.
He did have Government experience prior to his Presidency. I'm not so sure about Business though, but don't consider that a must for the Presidency.

Even today, he really doesn't know what he's doing. Case in point, the 'Keystone Pipeline'. He's against it. Is there anything wrong with sending the oil and jobs to the US?

He's not really against it, he just postponed it for further talks in 2013. The number of jobs claimed it would produce are exaggerated. Oil prices will likely not go down since it is dependent on the consumption. Environmental factors need to also be included, extracting oil from tar sands requires a lot of resources (water and energy) and have considerable negative impact on the environment.

Maybe you're right...'Clueless' might be the wrong word. Maybe Obama knows exactly what he's doing and is deliberately leading our country toward fiscal disaster.

Again making baseless assumptions, I haven't read or seen anything that would lead to disaster by Obama.

And Yanni...you don't live here. How could you possibly know what we feel and think other than what you read or see from the liberal journalist crap online or on the TV?? You can't pass judgement on what WE AMERICANS experience and feel. It's your opinion from across the Atlantic Ocean in another country. To say the WE AMERICANS don't know how we feel and what we experienced is, in itself, arrogant.

I lived in the USA most of my life, I know exactly what is going on and what people "feel" and "think". What are "liberal journalist crap online or on the TV" you're referring to? Everything apart from Fox news? Sorry, but I read/watch on several different news channels (and from different countries) to get an objective view on the situation. I made no judgement or statement on what Americans think or feel what so ever. Yet despite me not living in the USA for the moment, you judge me in saying that I have no say in this er...

WE (The USA) can do better! And we can certainly do a lot better than Obama. We need someone who knows what they are doing! Obama isn't that person!

I can just say that many people (Americans) have a different opinion on this. Don't forget that that Obama still has a slight majority compared to Romney. That indicates that quite a lot of Americans would prefer to have him as President again. You may not like it but there are many individuals/groups that do not share your views, that doesn't mean they should be regarded less. Once the votes are cast, we'll see what America wants. =)

Concerning the book, I found a few mixed reviews (some questionable, others not). I have not much to say about it until I've read it or found more feedback on the claims etc.

Edit: Didn't see Dad's post when I submitted. Here's the reply to prevent double posting. =)
I agree that Obama shouldn't have said anything, but he was questioned by journalists and reporters concerning that case a the time. So in turn he replied. Though I would say not every 'African American' supports Mr. Obama, but majority is very likely.
I have nothing against religion, as long that the leader/politician separates his religion from government (separation of church and state) I am fine with it. If we do remove every politician who espouses their religion, we'll have very few in the end. =/
Yes the tenets can be questionable, but so do other religious texts. As long as the individual does not impose their views on others and respects other religious views, I am fine with it. I respect the person for their individual views despite me not sharing his/her religious ideals/views.
Concerning the 'Corporate Play Book', what can be done instead to separate the Government from Corporations? I have developed a slight skepticism towards large Corporations over the years but my view is that there needs to be a balance between Corporate freedom and regulations.

I have no definite or perfect answer for this current political situation as it is not my field of expertise. There is also the fact that there are many people who hold different views, so finding a solution to please all is almost impossible.

Cheers

Yanoda

[WD-40]

He studied law in Harvard and University of Chicago. He's a Constitutional Law Professor. He was Senator of Illinois from 1997-2008.
He did have Government experience prior to his Presidency. I'm not so sure about Business though, but don't consider that a must for the Presidency.

I never said he was 'stupid'...just clueless.

He's not really against it, he just postponed it for further talks in 2013.

Ohh...sure..."Re-elect me, then I'll have a look at it. Oh...and tell Putin I'll get those missiles outta Europe when I'm re-elected. Then I won't give a [poo] what Americans or the world thinks about it since it's my final 4 years."

Again making baseless assumptions, I haven't read or seen anything that would lead to disaster by Obama.

Okay...I guess we'll just wait until the economy collapses...then everyone will know his policy of printing more and more money to falsely prop up the market (and causing an even bigger disaster for us and the world) didn't work out so well after all.

I lived in the USA most of my life, I know exactly what is going on and what people "feel" and "think". What are "liberal journalist crap online or on the TV" you're referring to? Everything apart from Fox news? Sorry, but I read/watch on several different news channels (and from different countries) to get an objective view on the situation. I made no judgement or statement on what Americans think or feel what so ever. Yet despite me not living in the USA for the moment, you judge me in saying that I have no say in this er...

Never would have guessed that you lived here. You seem so...British. Most Journalist papers are run by Liberals, as are most Cable news networks. I travel a lot, and get an equal amount of CNN, MSNBC as well as Fox. I can still filter out the crap. Why? I still live here and can see it for myself.

I can just say that many people (Americans) have a different opinion on this. Don't forget that that Obama still has a slight majority compared to Romney. That indicates that quite a lot of Americans would prefer to have him as President again. You may not like it but there are many individuals/groups that do not share your views, that doesn't mean they should be regarded less. Once the votes are cast, we'll see what America wants. =)

Yes..we'll see. I do not put too much stock in polls, as many are driven to sway opinion rather than report what's really going on. Afterall, they only give small samplings. Considering the amount of actual voters out there, it's mearly a stab in the dark on what people really feel when you look at polls.

[Yanoda]

I never said he was 'stupid'...just clueless.

Neither have I claimed that you say he was stupid. I was just showing that he's not as 'clueless' on Government as you claimed.

Ohh...sure..."Re-elect me, then I'll have a look at it. Oh...and tell Putin I'll get those missiles outta Europe when I'm re-elected. Then I won't give a [poo] what Americans or the world thinks about it since it's my final 4 years."

Again, you're making assumptions that Obama plans to destroy the USA, which I find a harsh accusation without having proof. I'm actually all for removing the missiles from Europe and a few Nuclear arsenals. Why increase tensions when it isn't necessary? There is also a slight cut on the massive military budget we have.

Okay...I guess we'll just wait until the economy collapses...then everyone will know his policy of printing more and more money to falsely prop up the market (and causing an even bigger disaster for us and the world) didn't work out so well after all.

The President has little to no say how the economy persists. Neither Bush nor Obama are at fault for causing the Financial Crisis since 2007. It was caused by mismanagement of the financial industry that eventually led to the melt down. It is Congress' job to balance the budget, as I stated earlier. The President can only offer proposals.

Never would have guessed that you lived here. You seem so...British.

I lived in several countries on 3 Continents. I admit that I also attended a British school for a few years in the past. Though I preferred to stay in the USA-- Florida to be more exact.

Most Journalist papers are run by Liberals, as are most Cable news networks. I travel a lot, and get an equal amount of CNN, MSNBC as well as Fox. I can still filter out the crap. Why? I still live here and can see it for myself.

I have seen many things as well, a bit that conflicts with what you've seen. Though, that is likely due to where we are at the moment. I also watched CNN, MSNBC and little of Fox News. Though my preferred News Channel for the moment is 'ARD Nachrichten' (German News) and News Magazine 'Spiegel' as they tend to be more neutral on the subjects (very little opinionated reports/news) others included BBC News and PBS News.

Yes..we'll see. I do not put too much stock in polls, as many are driven to sway opinion rather than report what's really going on. Afterall, they only give small samplings. Considering the amount of actual voters out there, it's mearly a stab in the dark on what people really feel when you look at polls.

Indeed, that is why I said that we shall wait for the votes in Election day to see the true views of Americans.

Once the votes are cast, we'll see what America wants. =)

I enjoy having this discussion WD-40, I needed that.

Cheers

Yanoda

[(SWGO)Minas_Thirith]

What i'm noticing is that whoever you choose for, it doesn't change things, you can look back at the "good old days"
However your memory isn't viable, you automaticly make problems seem less problematic, and the good things better.

Obama, Bush, don't mather what idea, or who thinks he knows it won't change one bit, we live in a corrupt world where we the common folk don't mather.

MT

[11_Panama_]

I always find it weird how these candidates spend millions of dollars to land a job that pays 6 figueres annualy. Do you think these guys are there for you? Or our Constitution for that er? I also think that any President that takes the oath to "defend our constitution" and then makes changes (as limiting our freedoms), should be tried for treason.