I can't stop.

[11_Panama_]

But smoking is not prescribed or NESSECARY. It's completely recreational. Along with that, second hand smoke kills too. Telling someone to move out or get a grip is as rude as calling someone an idiot. It shows a selfish uncaring attitude towards people around you. Some people are minors who can't legally leave home some are young children who don't know any better. Sure there are chemicals in other things such as water and food. But those items are needed to live.

Answer me this. What benefit does smoking provide? It's harmful to the user and it's harmful to those around the user. What good thing is produced by cigarettes. 11 Panama you mentioned taking medication that has harmful side effects. But they have a benefit. Tell me please what's the pro of smoking.

Who's talking about benefits of smoking? You are taking this discussion to a place that's neither here nor there. I'm simply saying that we all encounter health degrading sources in our daily lives...intentional or unintentional. Do we need hormones and chemicals in our foods and drinks to live?..as you stated? Please Bueno...if your going to participate in this discussion, keep it in the context of the discussion. Your asking a question that you already know the answer. There is no benefit to smoking. Unless you want to use the Endorphins released in the brain from the smoking experience as a "benefit". Bottom line is that smoking is bad for you..and I'm not here to advocate smoking.

[Col. Hstar]

You know, I think everyone has been touched by smoking in there life time, the fact that it draws such a negative reaction prove this. I for one think its terrible and disgusting as well, but that's my opinion. While I don't agree with calling some one an idiot, I do think that if you feel it helps by smoking outside or away from others, your ignoring or disregarding the effects of second hand smoke.

I work in an auto body shop as a painter, we use chemicals and create waste that are so toxic, the EPA requires that we go through a 10 hour training course each year to be certified. We use triple filtration systems and negative pressure booths when spraying. The reason for all this is because once the stuff gets in the air it hangs around where other people can breath it in and become sick from it.

Cigarette smoke is the same, just because you do it outside doesn't make it less harmful. Unless you smoke while holding a shop vac with a hep-pa filter near your mouth that stuff stays in the air, so the next time one of your kids are playing outside, they are going to breath it in. The is a reason they outlawed even smoking sections at restaurants, it's because smoking puts chemicals in the air, that don't dissipate or dilute.


By the way, to all the "fans" :P of Col Homestar and the Homestarmy, it's good to be back

[haasd0gg]

You like riding in cars? You're ruining the air we breathe. Like that computer you're typing away on? You're ruining the earth with all the hazardous waste inside it. Alcohol? Please...
There are so many bad things in our air, in our food, that anyone still [female dog] about smoking is wasting time an oxygen. Nobody wants to weigh in on worldwide fukushima contamination? Keep feeding in to the propaganda machine, fools. Smokers are the ultimate evil an must be stomped out!
Smoking has been banned almost everywhere. People who choose to smoke now must endure endure rain, snow, and cold to do so. Anyone who has a problem with that can, in my opinion, piss off.

[WD-40]

Eat an ass-load of Nicorettes every day. Problem solved.

[Brazosgrad]

I don't drink and don't smoke. I don't hang glide, sky dive, or ride a bike. I've been faithful to my wife, I signal at every turn, and I make my kids wear their seat belts. I'm gonna feel pretty silly dying of NOTHING when I get old...They're gonna ask what I died of...and someone is gonna say "old age".

[haasd0gg]

I don't drink and don't smoke. I don't hang glide, sky dive, or ride a bike. I've been faithful to my wife, I signal at every turn, and I make my kids wear their seat belts. I'm gonna feel pretty silly dying of NOTHING when I get old...They're gonna ask what I died of...and someone is gonna say "old age".

All without berating those who make other choices... amazing...

[(=DK=)Samonuh]

Why do people start smoking? That is what I've always wondered. In today's world, children are fed anti-smoking propaganda practically from kindergarten. They know the consequences of breathing in such toxins. I doubt there is one teenager in America who isn't aware of the unhealthy impacts that smoking has on an individual's life. However, I see all around me in high school many students starting to smoke and becoming addicted to cigarettes. What compels somebody to reach for that first cigarette, light up, and smoke it? I'm deathly afraid to do so, and I have no desire to do so...

[Shalandai]

You like riding in cars? You're ruining the air we breathe. Like that computer you're typing away on? You're ruining the earth with all the hazardous waste inside it. Alcohol? Please...
There are so many bad things in our air, in our food, that anyone still [female dog] about smoking is wasting time an oxygen. Nobody wants to weigh in on worldwide fukushima contamination? Keep feeding in to the propaganda machine, fools. Smokers are the ultimate evil an must be stomped out!
Smoking has been banned almost everywhere. People who choose to smoke now must endure endure rain, snow, and cold to do so. Anyone who has a problem with that can, in my opinion, piss off.

I find I must concur with Haas. Smoking is not some great evil, and yes, I have seen one of my relatives die from lung cancer. I would prefer to believe that I am pragmatic, however, and therefore find it much more statistically likely that I will die in a car crash, have heart failure or (given that I work in radiology twice a week) will develop breast cancer first. And in the unlikely chance that I do live long enough to die of lung cancer, well, at least I outlived the above.

I am intrigued by Samonuh's question, however.

I grew up in an anti-smoking household, watched a relative die of lung cancer, and, in my youthful stupidity, was not unlike Wulfman in my opinion of those who smoked. Then I met someone who regularly smoked a very specific brand of cigarettes - I can only assume that it was because he was so amazingly dreamy that I associated the smell with him, which I found to be intoxicatingly attractive in a short span of time. It was not long after we began dating that I began smoking them as well.

After we broke up, I stopped, mostly because I didn't feel any particular need to continue and was trying to actively distance myself from particularly memorable connections. I never had any 'cravings' or need to smoke - for the most part, I just stopped, but found it rather hypocritical to have an anti-smoking stance.

Some years later I saw that same brand while in a store, and I picked them up. I keep one pack around in my jeep just for social occasions - I'll have the odd cigarette when I'm out club-hopping or doing things with friends, and even then, only if I'm in the mood. Beyond that, they stay in the car, and honestly, sometimes I even forget about them until my friends light up. I have no particular need or desire to continue smoking - it is now May, and I am barely halfway through a pack I bought in December - but I still do from time to time, albeit without anymore of a rational reason than 'because I feel like it'.

[Col. Hstar]

You like riding in cars? You're ruining the air we breathe.

Here is a little food for thought:
“The air pollution emitted by cigarettes is 10 times greater than diesel car exhaust, suggests a controlled experiment, reported in Tobacco Control.” – Medical News Today

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/releases/12481.php

“While air pollution may cause up to 3% of lung cancer cases in the UK, tobacco smoke causes around 85%. This means that tobacco smoke causes more than 25 times more lung cancers than air pollution does.” – Cancer Research in the UK

http://info.cancerresearchuk.org/health ... -and-radon

Smoking has been banned almost everywhere. People who choose to smoke now must endure endure rain, snow, and cold to do so

Yes smokers have it sooo hard. How big is the gun that society holds to their head, forcing them to smoke.

Anyone who has a problem with that can, in my opinion, piss off

And that’s the core of the problem, you just don’t give a damn. And you wonder why there is so much hostility towards smokers

[haasd0gg]

I don't smoke in crowds. I don't smoke on the playground. I don't smoke in peoples houses.... please do tell exactly why I should give a damn about someone else's ridiculous prejudice against smokers.