Guns and the Controlling of Them

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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby (=DK=)Samonuh » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:46 am

11_Panama_ wrote:I refuse to waste my time on it. Read my private message.

If you're going to make bold claims, be prepared for counter-arguments. Don't just ignore them. Face them like the adult you claimed you were a few posts ago.
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby Col. Hstar » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:16 am

(=DK=)Samonuh on pg 1 wrote:Alright, I'm starting this topic out of pure interest. Keep it clean and mature. No insults or trolling.


(=DK=)Samonuh on pg 10 wrote:And Panama, since when does being a part of the lower-middle class automatically make you an expert in the fields of government and macroeconomics?


Sooo What changed? 1. How do you think that calling someone part of the lower middle class is going to sound? 2. Why would someone who is part of that class not be allowed to comment on those fields. 3. Like Panama said, how the heck do you know him. and 4. what does bringing social status up help for your case?

You called for no insults or trolling yet you're the one who started talking about economics, MD just mention it in his argument, you've gone and turned it into your own personal soap box.
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby kjeopardy » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:20 am

Col. Homestar wrote:
(=DK=)Samonuh on pg 1 wrote:Alright, I'm starting this topic out of pure interest. Keep it clean and mature. No insults or trolling.


(=DK=)Samonuh on pg 10 wrote:And Panama, since when does being a part of the lower-middle class automatically make you an expert in the fields of government and macroeconomics?


Sooo What changed? 1. How do you think that calling someone part of the lower middle class is going to sound? 2. Why would someone who is part of that class not be allowed to comment on those fields. 3. Like Panama said, how the heck do you know him. and 4. what does bringing social status up help for your case?

You called for no insults or trolling yet you're the one who started talking about economics, MD just mention it in his argument, you've gone and turned it into your own personal soap box.


Didn't even notice the hypocrisy :angry: .
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby THEWULFMAN » Mon Jul 30, 2012 6:21 am

(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:Just food for thought, but the 2nd amendment was written in a very different time period. Weaponry, culture, and population size have all changed drastically. Isn't gun control just a method to modernize the outdated concept of total "right to bear arms?"



The founding fathers of our country knew that one day, our government is going to get out of control and loose the values they wanted in their America. This isn't an if, it's a when. It's simply how government's life cycles go. Eventually they will take too much power, encroach on our freedoms. If that happens, it's our job as united states citizens to rise up and unseat the government so that we can start anew.

Thomas Jefferson on November 13, 1787 wrote:The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it’s natural manure.


Too many gun control laws prevents us from being able to do what we need to do when the time comes.
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby Shalandai » Mon Jul 30, 2012 7:34 am

I have generally avoided this thread, and will pretty much continue to do so, as it is one of those thread topics where someone, somewhere, will get butt-hurt, and nobody will ever win because this is the internet. :roll:

Though, sadly, I did have to halfheartedly glance through as it seems to be one of the only threads being posted in. And it has again reminded me of how eternally thankful I am that I was not born American.
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby THEWULFMAN » Mon Jul 30, 2012 8:14 am

You're in Canada there then Shalandai? Don't the criminals politely ask for the money (without guns) and the cashier always hands it over happily? God Canada is so slinkingly polite.
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby MATTHEW'S_DAD » Mon Jul 30, 2012 10:53 am

Shalandai wrote:And it has again reminded me of how eternally thankful I am that I was not born American.


You know, that was a really dumb thing for you to say. I'm glad you weren't born here either. We really don't need any more shallow, elitist, self righteous kids who roll through the internet with all their "wisdom" they attained from high school. I thought you were better than that but oh well, I guess you're just typical and ignorant. No surprises with you.
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby (=DK=)Samonuh » Mon Jul 30, 2012 1:33 pm

MATTHEW'S_DAD wrote:
Shalandai wrote:And it has again reminded me of how eternally thankful I am that I was not born American.


You know, that was a really dumb thing for you to say. I'm glad you weren't born here either. We really don't need any more shallow, elitist, self righteous kids who roll through the internet with all their "wisdom" they attained from high school. I thought you were better than that but oh well, I guess you're just typical and ignorant. No surprises with you.

I believe what he was implying was that every other developed nation in the world has far fewer gun-related crimes than the United States, and almost all of these countries (such as the one he lives in) have very strict gun control policy. Again, I'm not supporting his claim, for comparing the USA and Europe is like comparing apples and oranges.
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby MATTHEW'S_DAD » Mon Jul 30, 2012 2:06 pm

I believe he is a "she".
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Re: Guns and the Controlling of Them

Postby 11_Panama_ » Mon Jul 30, 2012 4:09 pm

This was a PM I was going to send to Samonuh, I asked him in my last PM to leave me alone but he keeps sending me PM's. I decided to post it in the public forums so everyone knows how I feel, and then perhaps Samonuh can understand that I don't want anymore PM's from him.


You are a kid and this has nothing to do with "your argument being better". It has to do with how you carry yourself as a "self rigtheous" jerk. You haven't learned anything yet until you lived life. But I guess you know it all already because you were an "A" student in high school. I can make bold statements because I lived what I talk about, while you read it in a book. And yes, I do know more than you because of my age, I've seen more, I've done more, and I've "learned" more than you. I have an Art Major (Commercial Art) and after I accomplished that, went to school for Electronics (one year course, not a degree). So your assumption to place me in a social class was very pompous of you. If I believe in saving the whales, does that make me an Eskimo? You have alot to learn kid. Now please, no more PM's, I don't like you.
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