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The most convincing argument ever.

Postby Doves » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:54 am

8/3/2012 12:57:22 : #[Crank] is there anyone here that doesnt belive in god?
8/3/2012 12:57:28 : #[America's_Debt] me
8/3/2012 12:57:42 : #[Crank] can you see your brain
8/3/2012 12:57:47 : #[America's_Debt] no
8/3/2012 12:57:50 : #[Crank] can you touch your brain/
8/3/2012 12:58:10 : #[Crank] same as god
8/3/2012 12:58:16 : #[Crank] and you rbrain exist

I am now a full believer in god.
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby Darth Crater » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:55 am

Fun fact - you are often awake during neurosurgery and could, properly guided by doctors, touch your brain.
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby sinty » Sat Aug 04, 2012 2:57 am

atheism is a fairy tale told to little boys and girls by their parents who had a bad day, or for those who cry that a god cannot possibly exist just because something bad happened.

idk about you all, but i definitely hope there is a god and i choose to believe...mostly only because after i die i want to be able to create my own live action battlefront 2 server so we can all run around and actually play the game...live. With our heads on the hero bodies, getting sent flying into the air from tossed detpacks and mines, awesome...come on now that would be awesome wouldnt it
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby WD-40 » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:30 am

sinty wrote:idk about you all, but i definitely hope there is a god and i choose to believe...mostly only because after i die i want to be able to create my own live action battlefront 2 server so we can all run around and actually play the game...live.

Sinty...this alone made me look forward to death. Thanks.
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby kjeopardy » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:55 am

I also am looking forward to death...on the rare occasion that I kill Scrum at HA, he'll actually feel it :mrgreen:.
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby Nathan_Mates » Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:56 am

This argument also works for just about anything you could possibly imagine that doesn't already have any form of existing evidence to prove or disprove it, although using the brain as an example is pretty weak.
sinty wrote:atheism is a fairy tale told to little boys and girls by their parents who had a bad day, or for those who cry that a god cannot possibly exist just because something bad happened.

Atheism is simply having a lack of a belief in a religion. No more, no less. There are no teachings attached to it or mythology to form its basis, so I don't see how exactly it is a fairy tale. And people choose to be atheist for many reasons, not just those you listed above.
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby sinty » Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:41 am

ya , except the higgs bozon particle was actually found recently...the control particle that was created 1 trillionth of a second after the supposed big bang that pre set and dialed in all the information for every other particle in existence. The universe came preloaded and preset, pre coded, like an ipod suddenly manifesting itself into reality with the quadrillions of playlists all neatly arranged by genre and date. But religious people are the crazies, not the atheists, right?

atheists are just as dumb as fanatical religious nut jobs, refuse to accept that god is a jerk and does not want to control our actions, unable to accept that in this universe and reality complex particles cannot manifest itself out of nothing, that there is nothing for the expanding universe to be contained in to actually exist in the first place, and that perhaps outside of this reality thought transcends physical space and time. Thought and will dreamed up and then manifested into our reality is more than plausible, its actually very close to being proven that a particle can exist in two places and times at once. Atheists claim to be immensely educated and look down upon most others for not being being so scientific in their though processes...pfft. The flip side to that is heavily religious people really think god cares what happens here. God doesn't care, if he did, id be able to walk. Lots of physicists are so smart that they actually have no common sense what so ever, ever watch the big bang theory on tv? Sheldon is a great example of it, no common sense what so ever. But beyond all of that, my favorite theory is evolution. The first appearance of life on earth was a single cell organism that likely popped into existence due to the right chemical imbalance near a smoke stack under water, yet came to be in the most harsh conditions imaginable. Highly acidic water, extreme temperature, crushing pressures and the ability right off the bat to be able to survive under water and know how to reproduce itself. This apparently suddenly happened by the billions...mmhmm

Jesus in single cell form is basically what evolutionists believe is the truth. A pre coded single celled amoeba or something that popped into existence with the ability to survive, adapt and copy itself. It came into existence with everything it needed, it cant have happened any other way if you actually know anything about Biology and DNA. It would have taken millions if not billions of years to "evolve" the traits needed to survive and split, but would have surely almost instantly died off upon its sudden appearance.

SCIENCE

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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby Nathan_Mates » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:23 am

Being a scientist is not the same thing as being an atheist. Your beef is with science, not atheism. A scientist can choose to be a theist if he or she wants to. Science is a work in progress, so scientists are bound to get temporarily stuck at some point until more progress is made. Having a god fill in the blank at the time being while more progress is made is only natural. You can see this in the history of scientific progress.

Sheldon is a fictional character and is not a actual representation of real physicists or even scientists in general. Scientists aren't just going to accept things because "it makes sense." Human beings are susceptible to self-delusion, so the scientific method serves as a legitimate means of reaching conclusions. Quantum Mechanics, for instance, wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to the average person. It defies common sense, but this theory proves to actually be very useful in the field of consumer electronics. Heck, if common sense was the governing factor to whether or not a proposed theory is legitimate or not, Quantum Mechanics would probably get tossed.

And also, abiogenesis has nothing to do with the theory of evolution or natural selection.
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby [m'kay] » Sat Aug 04, 2012 5:56 am

sinty wrote:atheism is a fairy tale told to little boys and girls by their parents who had a bad day, or for those who cry that a god cannot possibly exist just because something bad happened.

idk about you all, but i definitely hope there is a god and i choose to believe...mostly only because after i die i want to be able to create my own live action battlefront 2 server so we can all run around and actually play the game...live. With our heads on the hero bodies, getting sent flying into the air from tossed detpacks and mines, awesome...come on now that would be awesome wouldnt it


sinty you aren't taking into account the fact that leggz plays this game, and according to your theory we would be playing SWBFII with him for eternity
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Re: The most convincing argument ever.

Postby Duel of Fates » Sat Aug 04, 2012 6:48 am

[m'kay] wrote:
sinty wrote:atheism is a fairy tale told to little boys and girls by their parents who had a bad day, or for those who cry that a god cannot possibly exist just because something bad happened.

idk about you all, but i definitely hope there is a god and i choose to believe...mostly only because after i die i want to be able to create my own live action battlefront 2 server so we can all run around and actually play the game...live. With our heads on the hero bodies, getting sent flying into the air from tossed detpacks and mines, awesome...come on now that would be awesome wouldnt it


sinty you aren't taking into account the fact that leggz plays this game, and according to your theory we would be playing SWBFII with him for eternity


There should be a ban list on the heaven server. So we can just add that moron to it. :th_a017:
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