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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby Draigun » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:59 am

Darth Crater wrote:On topic - how about I attempt to provide a problem? Simplify the following into one term (it's much easier than it looks, if you know the right method):

x^6 + (6 * x^5 * y) + (15 * x^4 * y^2) + (20 * x^3 * y^3) + (15 * x^2 * y^4) + (6 * x * y^5) + y^6

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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby Darth Crater » Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:02 am

No, it can get a lot simpler. I'm looking for a single term, as opposed to the 7 terms in the original function.

No differential equations, though. It's much simpler.
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby [$$$]_Aphelion_ » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:11 am

Math was so easy back then all kids had to do was add up chocolate chips like...

Okay kids If I have 5 chocolate chips in one hand and 2 in the other how much do I have *hand goes up* *teach calls on him/her* yes billy I will have seven now if I ate three how many will I have *kids scream* 4!!!!

That's how math was back then...
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby (=DK=)Samonuh » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:57 pm

︻デ═一 Àphęłïøñ-§-™® wrote:Math was so easy back then all kids had to do was add up chocolate chips like...

Okay kids If I have 5 chocolate chips in one hand and 2 in the other how much do I have *hand goes up* *teach calls on him/her* yes billy I will have seven now if I ate three how many will I have *kids scream* 4!!!!

That's how math was back then...

Was this an attempt at humor or...? I can't tell...
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby Bryant » Tue Aug 07, 2012 1:23 pm

Darth Crater wrote:Really it was much simpler than that. He joined on your side in exactly the same manner as Marth, he mentioned a few posts up that he's a modder, and I feel like I've heard you use the name "Outrider" in the context of your team before.

On topic - how about I attempt to provide a problem? Simplify the following into one term (it's much easier than it looks, if you know the right method):

x^6 + (6 * x^5 * y) + (15 * x^4 * y^2) + (20 * x^3 * y^3) + (15 * x^2 * y^4) + (6 * x * y^5) + y^6


(x+y)^6

I forget the name of it, but it uses:
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby Outrider » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:03 pm

That would be called a palindrome. ;)

Huh, so it was just a simple reverse binomial expansion. Nice. :o
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby kjeopardy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:34 pm

Damn...people posted the answer before I could attempt Crater's problem...

But yes, (x+y)^6 is correct, and this could be verified with Pascal's triangle and the binomial expansion theorem...

I'll post a problem....this isn't mine, it's from an application to a math program...

Call an integer n revered if:

    -Its not divisible by 5.
    -Its base-5 expansion is the reverse of its base-8 expansion.

Find all values of n , or show that there are none.
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby kjeopardy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:39 pm

Outrider wrote:That would be called a palindrome. ;)

Huh, so it was just a simple reverse binomial expansion. Nice. :o


It's actually not a palindrome, since it's not identical from back to front (the exponents are switched). Only the coefficients form a palindrome.

In general, I don't think that there can be any palindrome polynomial functions...think about it: if there are any identical terms, then they would combine (since you always combine like terms) to form a new polynomial, which wouldn't be a palindrome...Hmm...
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby Darth Crater » Tue Aug 07, 2012 5:30 pm

Bryant wrote:(x+y)^6

3.14pi wrote:But yes, (x+y)^6 is correct, and this could be verified with Pascal's triangle and the binomial expansion theorem...


Yes, that's correct.

Pi's newest problem...

1 through 4 are revered. Thus, the task is to find all values of n, not show that there are none.

A revered number must have the same number of digits in its base-5 and base-8 forms. This restricts search to the integer ranges 1-4, 8-24, 64-124, 512-624. Limiting the search space further, all base-5 expansions of integers > 512 begin in 4, so we only need to search 1/8 of 512-624.

Brute-force search found only 91.

So, 1, 2, 3, 4, 91, and the negatives of those?
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Re: Figure this one out...

Postby kjeopardy » Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:51 pm

Darth Crater wrote:
Bryant wrote:(x+y)^6

3.14pi wrote:But yes, (x+y)^6 is correct, and this could be verified with Pascal's triangle and the binomial expansion theorem...


Yes, that's correct.

Pi's newest problem...

1 through 4 are revered. Thus, the task is to find all values of n, not show that there are none.

A revered number must have the same number of digits in its base-5 and base-8 forms. This restricts search to the integer ranges 1-4, 8-24, 64-124, 512-624. Limiting the search space further, all base-5 expansions of integers > 512 begin in 4, so we only need to search 1/8 of 512-624.

Brute-force search found only 91.

So, 1, 2, 3, 4, 91, and the negatives of those?


You are correct :appl: . I've attached a paper solution, although your computer one works in this case. I really only meant the positive integers, so you can disregard the negative ones, although I should have specified that :mrgreen:. 91 is the odd one, the others are obvious. If you have any other problems (non-factoring ones, those aren't that much fun :lol:), I'd love to see them. I'll try to find another one...
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