Coincidences?

[11_Panama_]

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I do believe that there is truth in everything. You have to keep an open mind and challenge everything. Just as some of you challenge God, why don't they use that mentality to challenge everything around them? We all know that the media lies to us.....well, perhaps not lies as much as misinform or not inform all together. Are there secret societies?...Yes, there are. Are they planning world domination?...They already have that...do they want to enslave us?....we are already wage slaves. I think the real question is...what the hell do they want? We as Americans have a right to question everything, and I'm ready to use that right. The people that I feel sorry for the most (and don't trust), are the ones that don't question the answers given.

[[m'kay]]

Narg, what are you saying? Is this really what you want to be known as? A conspiracy theorist? Threat to rationality and order? Eliminate these thoughts from your mind. Him and me are just people. Now, back to your regularly scheduled amusement...

Oh. Oh, so you're going to try and discredit me now, make me look like a fool in order to perpetuate your LIES? I know your game, and I won't lose.

[Darth Crater]

He's the community troll, yes. Exposing obviously nonexistent conspiracies is problematic, though. Us? Illuminati? Somebody needs to stand up against this utter madness. Help me!

Serious mode (implying my last few posts weren't serious mode, for anyone confused): Panama, do you have any actual evidence for the existence of this secret society or societies? Or is this just based on copy/pasted falsehoods like those in the original post and on unsourced videos like the Fluoride one?

[11_Panama_]

He's the community troll, yes. Exposing obviously nonexistent conspiracies is problematic, though. Us? Illuminati? Somebody needs to stand up against this utter madness. Help me!

Serious mode (implying my last few posts weren't serious mode, for anyone confused): Panama, do you have any actual evidence for the existence of this secret society or societies? Or is this just based on copy/pasted falsehoods like those in the original post and on unsourced videos like the Fluoride one?

Well Crater...let me answer your question with a question...do you have any evidence that there are not? There's a reason why they are called "secret".

[Col. Hstar]

He's the community troll, yes. Exposing obviously nonexistent conspiracies is problematic, though. Us? Illuminati? Somebody needs to stand up against this utter madness. Help me!

Serious mode (implying my last few posts weren't serious mode, for anyone confused): Panama, do you have any actual evidence for the existence of this secret society or societies? Or is this just based on copy/pasted falsehoods like those in the original post and on unsourced videos like the Fluoride one?

Well Crater...let me answer your question with a question...do you have any evidence that there are not? There's a reason why they are called "secret".

Oh no. The evidence argument. The quicksand of threads

[THEWULFMAN]

@Panama: So you're telling the atheist, who has at length, multiple times, said that lack of disproving evidence does not constitute a reason to believe in something?



Well, I know what to do.

Somebody needs to stand up against this utter madness. Help me!

[11_Panama_]

[quote="THEWULFMAN"]@Panama: So you're telling the atheist, who has at length, multiple times, said that lack of disproving evidence does not constitute a reason to believe in something?



Well, I know what to do.





Well, sometimes lack of evidence does not misprove anything. It just means that evidence hasn't been found, found is the key word. Imagine all things that took lifetimes to prove....did it not exist before evidence was found?

[Darth Crater]

He's the community troll, yes. Exposing obviously nonexistent conspiracies is problematic, though. Us? Illuminati? Somebody needs to stand up against this utter madness. Help me!

Serious mode (implying my last few posts weren't serious mode, for anyone confused): Panama, do you have any actual evidence for the existence of this secret society or societies? Or is this just based on copy/pasted falsehoods like those in the original post and on unsourced videos like the Fluoride one?

Well Crater...let me answer your question with a question...do you have any evidence that there are not? There's a reason why they are called "secret".

Alright, I'll get into this again. Still serious mode. (Has anyone worked out what non-serious mode entails?)

Do you have any evidence that we are not secretly ruled by lizard-people from Saturn disguised as humans? Do you have any evidence that we are not living in a computer simulation run by the disembodied brain of Stalin? Do you have any evidence that people are not regularly abducted and probed by visitors from Alpha Centauri? Why, given a total lack of evidence, should you believe in this conspiracy but not every single other proposition it's possible to make with the same amount of evidence?

Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Without evidence of a conspiracy, we should not believe there is a conspiracy. That said, if you'd like to provide evidence for once, I'm willing to listen...

[haasd0gg]

I would note that up until Raymond Patriarca Jr was indicted, there was no such thing as the mafia

[Darth Crater]

Untrue. With sufficient observation, you could gain plenty of evidence that people were engaged in organized crime. Otherwise it would never have been possible to identify or indict him in the first place. Also, plenty of arrests had been made before that time...