Terrorist Attack (Or unlikely freak accident) Hits Boston

[Darth Crater]

Haas, they were ethnically Chechen but weren't raised there. It's unlikely they had any connections to a professional group. If they did, a lot more people would be dead.

Everyone else except Narg - yes, Islam has a lot of violent idiots. Just like the rest of humanity. Stop cherrypicking your examples of violence and intolerance.

Narg - I like the "abandon thread!" one with the flying snail, personally.

[CommanderOtto]

[haasd0gg]

Got the [m'kay]. Now let's see what comes of the questioning.

[[JOG]WorldFear]

Got the [m'kay]. Now let's see what comes of the questioning.

Hurrah! the citizens of Watertown may now rest without constant sirens and police lights. I wonder what his motives were...

[(SWGO)Kren]

[The only current world conflict that you listed is the Arab Spring were the Muslim Brotherhood (a known terrorist group) is in power. This lovely "spring" has made Egypt unsafe for Americans and Christians. Recently a main Christian cathedral was attacked by a mob during a funeral as police supposedly stood by idly.

Islam is a corrupt and evil religion. It actively calls for killing of "infidels" and implementing Sharia law world-wide. Jihad is a core belief of Islam not a radical element. That being said, just because someone is Muslim does not make them a traditional Islamist. I believe there are many "moderate" Muslims which choose to only follow the earlier peaceful teachings. But if you can't understand that the Koran teaches a political system of conquering, oppression, and killing then there is not point to continue this. I live on a University campus were the vast majority of people have been brainwashed by the liberal educational system. The belief that Islam is a peaceful religion is made up by the "elites" in University level education, which in turn due to the strong liberal connection to University education has spread through liberal politics as well. And again I believe there are many "moderate" Muslims which choose to only follow the earlier peaceful teachings (which needed to be repeated, because I know someone will take what I say and try to twist it).

..Right, so it is corrupt and evil, geez you appear to be deluded. What a stupid racist statement to come out with. Religious liberty and tolerance at its finest, bravo!

Conflicts arose in history but do not think for one minute this was all due to the Musilm's.

Extremists of Islam due to their ignorance of the religion hold tight to the literal meanings within the Qur’an and twist it to their own ends. The same can be applied to the law or constitution of any country. Something that was written at the formation of the religion or country 500 or 2000 years ago meant something different however people sadly twist it to meet their own needs.

The meanings of Jihad:

•A believer's internal struggle to live out the Muslim faith as well as possible
•The struggle to build a good Muslim society
•Holy war: the struggle to defend Islam, with force if necessary

At the moment Bryant you are focusing on the third point only.

The Arab Spring made in unsafe for a lot of people not just Americans and Christians, again there is a bigger world out there that does not resolve around America and Christians. There are people are living in oppression and fear of their lives through dictatorship. Look at Syria now and how the President ordering his troops to shoot, bomb and torture and his own people (women and children) because they don't want to live under constant fear. These are Muslims dying at the hands of other Muslims, are these classed as "Infidels"?

When the news broke that the bomber had been identified as a person with brown skin, bam!...it must be a Muslim. The thought was injected into everyone's mind to reference Muslims/Islam via the media. This is clearly how you took it and is evident by the way you have responded.

In every society there are crackpots everywhere, those individuals whose purpose is to kill because of what they believe in or due to the fact they are mentally unstable. This could be that the kid next door or the grandma at the end of the street. What difference would it have made if the persons who undertook the bombings were white Christian middle class Americans?

If you guys have a bit of spare time, watch the videos and asorb it and get more of an understanding Islam/Muslims. You might learn that there is more to Islam than what is currently in the news today.





What has happened in the US is shocking and disturbing when you know people have been killed and maimed. I don't want to detract from anyone's loss or feeling or sadness but the crusade of "us vs. them", "Christian vs. Islam" should be more along the lines of "right vs. wrong".

Kren

[MATTHEW'S_DAD]

Speaking as a non-christian, the muslims have a problem and they need to damn deal with it. The muslims have had this problem since before there was ever a United States. ALL religions have had their problems with violence but the muslims have the biggest problem RIGHT NOW.

I'm glad that dude's brother is dead because now there is one less violent bastard on the face of this earth. I will be happy when the 19 year old brother is dead too.

[[JOG]WorldFear]

Speaking as a non-christian, the muslims have a problem and they need to damn deal with it. The muslims have had this problem since before there was ever a United States. ALL religions have had their problems with violence but the muslims have the biggest problem RIGHT NOW.

I'm glad that dude's brother is dead because now there is one less violent bastard on the face of this earth. I will be happy when the 19 year old brother is dead too.

Agreed. Death Sentence should be unanimous

[MATTHEW'S_DAD]

Haas, they were ethnically Chechen but weren't raised there. It's unlikely they had any connections to a professional group. If they did, a lot more people would be dead.

You'll find out that you are incorrect about this.

[Darth Crater]

Haas, they were ethnically Chechen but weren't raised there. It's unlikely they had any connections to a professional group. If they did, a lot more people would be dead.

You'll find out that you are incorrect about this.

What, exactly, are you taking issue with in my statement?

I suppose I should define what I meant by "connections" - funding, orders, and/or direct communication.

[Bryant]

..Right, so it is corrupt and evil, geez you appear to be deluded. What a stupid racist statement to come out with. Religious liberty and tolerance at its finest, bravo!

Conflicts arose in history but do not think for one minute this was all due to the Musilm's.
I have never said that all conflict arose from Islam - they are a relatively new religion. I was only talking about current conflicts.

Extremists of Islam due to their ignorance of the religion hold tight to the literal meanings within the Qur’an and twist it to their own ends. The same can be applied to the law or constitution of any country. Something that was written at the formation of the religion or country 500 or 2000 years ago meant something different however people sadly twist it to meet their own needs.
They haven't twisting anything. The Qur'an specifically says to kill people of scripture to lay and wait for them. It says infidels (Christians/Jews/Anyone opposed to Islam) shouldn't be allowed in a town with a Mosque. They are commanded to do Jihad at least every 10 years (I think) and then they can take a break and lie/deceive people until they recover strength. You have the extremists backwards.

The meanings of Jihad:

•A believer's internal struggle to live out the Muslim faith as well as possible
Read the above, or read about Mohammed to know that this is not good
•The struggle to build a good Muslim society
Which is done through conquering and implementing Sharia law. Don't forget Islam means peace. Peace that is brought when Allah returns after all the infidels are killed or oppressed and Sharia law is implemented world wide.
•Holy war: the struggle to defend Islam, with force if necessary
Do you have any idea how far this statement goes? Under Sharia, no one can talk against Islam which also means they can't accept other religions. This is an "offense" against Islam and thus must be "defended". I don't know if you heard about a pastor that was going to burn a Qur'an. Muslims in some country (I forgot), said that if he did they were going to kill people. That is defense...

At the moment Bryant you are focusing on the third point only.
And you are blinded by the seemingly goodness of the others.

The Arab Spring made in unsafe for a lot of people not just Americans and Christians, again there is a bigger world out there that does not resolve around America and Christians. There are people are living in oppression and fear of their lives through dictatorship. Look at Syria now and how the President ordering his troops to shoot, bomb and torture and his own people (women and children) because they don't want to live under constant fear. These are Muslims dying at the hands of other Muslims, are these classed as "Infidels"?
This would be part of the Corruptness. Similar to how the Muslim Brotherhood is against homosexuals, when Mohammed had sex with guys and part of the virgins in heaven includes men and women (and to make it clear, only men get this - so it's not like women are suppose to get one and men the other)

When the news broke that the bomber had been identified as a person with brown skin, bam!...it must be a Muslim. The thought was injected into everyone's mind to reference Muslims/Islam via the media. This is clearly how you took it and is evident by the way you have responded.
Again, I have never said anything to this. You are twisting what I'm saying to fit your agenda of how I "should be" if I don't agree with your viewpoint. And as it turns out, it seems they are Muslim from the latest news articles, but I don't know if it can be trusted yet.

In every society there are crackpots everywhere, those individuals whose purpose is to kill because of what they believe in or due to the fact they are mentally unstable. This could be that the kid next door or the grandma at the end of the street. What difference would it have made if the persons who undertook the bombings were white Christian middle class Americans?
The difference is that it is clearly and plainly written in the Qur'an that this is what they should be doing!!! I wish I could find this one amazing video that I watched a couple years ago. It was 2 hours long and went into great detail on this subject. One of the speakers was a former Muslim who group up around/in Israeli. As a kid he was given a bomb and instructed to take it into Bethlehem. I don't remember exactly, but it I think it was suppose to be a suicide bombing. The guards knew he had a bomb, but they were philistine guards that were instructed to let him in. He ended up throwing the bomb up on a building because he saw other Muslim kids running around. The video went into a lot of the misinformation about the meaning of Jihad and the deception that has vastly infiltrated Europe (especially the UK), and is also coming into the US.

If you guys have a bit of spare time, watch the videos and asorb it and get more of an understanding Islam/Muslims. You might learn that there is more to Islam than what is currently in the news today.
See the above. I literally laughed out loud when I saw a BBC link.

What has happened in the US is shocking and disturbing when you know people have been killed and maimed. I don't want to detract from anyone's loss or feeling or sadness but the crusade of "us vs. them", "Christian vs. Islam" should be more along the lines of "right vs. wrong".
This is only about right and wrong.

Kren

I'm not the deluded one here.