Doomday Preppers

[WD-40]

I just don't understand the mentality of believing the world will end in our lifetime. Society is more peaceful now than it has even been, food supply grows even more exponentially paired with increasing population, and only about 10% of our land is actually used...

But we exist on a financial 'house of cards' completely dependent on the cyber technology that runs every financial transaction known to Mankind. Once it crashes, ain't no past life that's gonna stop the panic. Everything will go crazy. You have no idea dude! So cozy in your comfy womb of ignorant existence. So young...anyway, one cannot prepare too much for any contingency. 'Commodities' are the best things to have. Food, precious metals, etc...heck, on my travels, I've been grabbing hotel soap, shampoo, etc to store and barter with if need be someday. There may come a day when the simple things like these are more valuable than food...just to 'feel' human again, and can be traded for...'food'. If the world stays cool, ill use it or trash it. No er. I'd suggest great weaponry and ammo too. That's just the tip of the SHTF stuff. We could spend 100 pages discussing preparation ideas for the worst. Great topic Nite!

[(=DK=)Samonuh]

Otto, may you explain why the Gini Coefficient ers in this argument? I can't respond to a map pulled entirely out of context.

I just don't understand the mentality of believing the world will end in our lifetime. Society is more peaceful now than it has even been, food supply grows even more exponentially paired with increasing population, and only about 10% of our land is actually used...

But we exist on a financial 'house of cards' completely dependent on the cyber technology that runs every financial transaction known to Mankind. Once it crashes, ain't no past life that's gonna stop the panic. Everything will go crazy. You have no idea dude! So cozy in your comfy womb of ignorant existence. So young...anyway, one cannot prepare too much for any contingency. 'Commodities' are the best things to have. Food, precious metals, etc...heck, on my travels, I've been grabbing hotel soap, shampoo, etc to store and barter with if need be someday. There may come a day when the simple things like these are more valuable than food...just to 'feel' human again, and can be traded for...'food'. If the world stays cool, ill use it or trash it. No er. I'd suggest great weaponry and ammo too. That's just the tip of the SHTF stuff. We could spend 100 pages discussing preparation ideas for the worst. Great topic Nite!

Yes, there's always a looming threat of destruction. The world could also suddenly decide to disarm all of their nuclear weapons tomorrow, but odds are neither are going to happen. Why spend life in perpetual fear and anticipation, expecting the extremes to occur?

[CommanderOtto]

it's not out of discussion... you say the world is improving but if income inequality is high (thus, poverty), then how can it improve?? and not only that... look at how hunger has increased when you read the link I gave you.

[NiteRunner81]

I just don't see why people don't see the fringe benefits of prepping.. I mean, some families live paycheck to paycheck, and if they had the food stores they wouldn't be so bad off if a paycheck got lost in the mail or they had to take unexpected time off due to other emergencies (death in the family, illness, injury, whatever)...

If you prep right in the short term your donkey is covered in these smaller crisis.... and then if SHTF you're sitting pretty with one key thing that people need in the big crises .... POWER

[WD-40]

I suppose many are thinking life is fine with the stockmarket climbing and we're not killing each other...yet...but what many do not understand is that the QE2 QE3 means 'Quantum Easing' Phase 2/ Phase 3 to 'Prevent' that financial house of cards from falling sooner than it should. QEs are the FED printing more money and shoving it into the market to help shore up the eventual collapse or 'hopefully' major correction downward of the stock market. It actually 'decreases' the value of the US Dollar since more 'dollars' are in circulation. The more they 'shore it up' (ie QE print more money) the bigger the eventual collapse. Better to correct down low than to keep shoring it up and create a huge cliff that makes it harder to recover from. It will happen...QEs just delay it and make it even worse. That being said, we cannot control the a-holes in govt short of voting them out...especially the Federal Reserve that creates the QEs such as as that a-hole Fed Reserve Chairman Bernake who is appointed by the other a-hole...the Prez.... So you would be wise to take appropriate steps to protect you and your family from what our crap government seems too damn ignorant and selfish to do for you. You younglings who have no viable experience in life cannot hope to understand this. But if you have a somewhat half-hearted interest in what has happened in the past 10 years eonomically and why, you may understand it all. Don't look at pundits for the Conservatives or Liberals...look at the economists who have no political affiliation. Surely you've seen what has happened to the Gold prices recently...great time to buy gold and silver! If (or when) the dollar collapses...those prices eventually will shoot up like a bottle rocket.

[Hobo]

I just don't understand the mentality of believing the world will end in our lifetime. Society is more peaceful now than it has even been, food supply grows even more exponentially paired with increasing population, and only about 10% of our land is actually used...

But we exist on a financial 'house of cards' completely dependent on the cyber technology that runs every financial transaction known to Mankind. Once it crashes, ain't no past life that's gonna stop the panic. Everything will go crazy. You have no idea dude! So cozy in your comfy womb of ignorant existence. So young...anyway, one cannot prepare too much for any contingency. 'Commodities' are the best things to have. Food, precious metals, etc...heck, on my travels, I've been grabbing hotel soap, shampoo, etc to store and barter with if need be someday. There may come a day when the simple things like these are more valuable than food...just to 'feel' human again, and can be traded for...'food'. If the world stays cool, ill use it or trash it. No er. I'd suggest great weaponry and ammo too. That's just the tip of the SHTF stuff. We could spend 100 pages discussing preparation ideas for the worst. Great topic Nite!

hmm.. if the world ever goes ape [poo], i'll probably head off to England. one side of my family connects to a long old blood line of nobility, so i'll probably be chilling in my castle there while y'all fight off all the zombies. cheerio, ol' chaps!

[THEWULFMAN]

Great topic Nite. I really should check out that show.

I am the kind of paranoid person who would love to prep, but the problem is we are living paycheck to paycheck as it is. We don't have extra money to store food and such.

Samonuh, *sighs*...

Lemme give you a perfect example of how "those things that will probably never happen" can happen.

Back in 2005 a large ice storm hit Ohio. There was roughly 3 inches of ice in some places here in Columbus. Most, if not all, of the city was out of power. I can't remember the numbers.

We had no generator.

We had no heater.

The car was in the garage, which could not be opened without power. There was no door to get inside to disable the chain, so the door could be opened manually.

So we were stuck without power for ~13 days or so, it was 8 years ago, hard to remember specific things like numbers.

We ate food that was warmed over candles. We had to eat rice because not much else was left by the ~13th day. We slept in the basement because it was around 45 degrees down there, but about 30 degrees upstairs. We slept on cots, which for my mom was hell because she has an injured spine. It got so cold inside, that my parents were worried that I wouldn't wake up one day.

When the power came back on, my parents sobbed.

I wish we had prepared. We didn't. We payed for it with ~13 days of hell. We have a generator now, we keep the garage door's chain unhooked so that it has to be opened manually, we have heaters now. We don't, however, keep stores of food. And that greatly worries me.

You always assume that "doomsday" comes at the hand of war. It doesn't. It can simply be a bad storm.

[(=DK=)Samonuh]

Great topic Nite. I really should check out that show.

I am the kind of paranoid person who would love to prep, but the problem is we are living paycheck to paycheck as it is. We don't have extra money to store food and such.

Samonuh, *sighs*...

Lemme give you a perfect example of how "those things that will probably never happen" can happen.

Back in 2005 a large ice storm hit Ohio. There was roughly 3 inches of ice in some places here in Columbus. Most, if not all, of the city was out of power. I can't remember the numbers.

We had no generator.

We had no heater.

The car was in the garage, which could not be opened without power. There was no door to get inside to disable the chain, so the door could be opened manually.

So we were stuck without power for ~13 days or so, it was 8 years ago, hard to remember specific things like numbers.

We ate food that was warmed over candles. We had to eat rice because not much else was left by the ~13th day. We slept in the basement because it was around 45 degrees down there, but about 30 degrees upstairs. We slept on cots, which for my mom was hell because she has an injured spine. It got so cold inside, that my parents were worried that I wouldn't wake up one day.

When the power came back on, my parents sobbed.

I wish we had prepared. We didn't. We payed for it with ~13 days of hell. We have a generator now, we keep the garage door's chain unhooked so that it has to be opened manually, we have heaters now. We don't, however, keep stores of food. And that greatly worries me.

You always assume that "doomsday" comes at the hand of war. It doesn't. It can simply be a bad storm.

That's 13 days. These "Doomsday Preppers" prepare for a lifetime of hell and turmoil.

[Duel of Fates]

You do realize that you can have a hard time surviving more than three days without water?

[(=DK=)Samonuh]

You do realize that you can have a hard time surviving more than three days without water?

Okay? Then prepare for those situations. That's fine and rational. But don't spend a good chunk of your income and time preparing for a permanent apocalypse that will never come in this lifetime. It's no way to live...