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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby Duel of Fates » Wed Apr 24, 2013 7:21 pm

(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:
Duel of Fates wrote:You do realize that you can have a hard time surviving more than three days without water?

Okay? Then prepare for those situations. That's fine and rational. But don't spend a good chunk of your income and time preparing for a permanent apocalypse that will never come in this lifetime. It's no way to live...


Define "permanent apocalypse".
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby [m'kay] » Wed Apr 24, 2013 8:44 pm

(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:
Duel of Fates wrote:You do realize that you can have a hard time surviving more than three days without water?

Okay? Then prepare for those situations. That's fine and rational. But don't spend a good chunk of your income and time preparing for a permanent apocalypse that will never come in this lifetime. It's no way to live...


I don't really see why you're so hostile about this. Hell, whenever I think about survival prepping, I take it pretty seriously because it's a pretty cool hobby that could actually be really, really useful in a survival scenario. It's a fun and useful thing to do. I guess if you hate fun and/or being useful it's pretty [poo] but oh well.
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby (=DK=)Samonuh » Wed Apr 24, 2013 11:46 pm

[m'kay] wrote:
(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:
Duel of Fates wrote:You do realize that you can have a hard time surviving more than three days without water?

Okay? Then prepare for those situations. That's fine and rational. But don't spend a good chunk of your income and time preparing for a permanent apocalypse that will never come in this lifetime. It's no way to live...


I don't really see why you're so hostile about this. Hell, whenever I think about survival prepping, I take it pretty seriously because it's a pretty cool hobby that could actually be really, really useful in a survival scenario. It's a fun and useful thing to do. I guess if you hate fun and/or being useful it's pretty [poo] but oh well.

It's fun to assume society will succumb to total breakdown in your lifetime?
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby Draigun » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:01 am

CommanderOtto wrote:it's interesting what you say but I really don't think things are improving.

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world income is high and world hunger is on the rise even though food production has increased

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-10-14-un-world-hunger_N.htm

Actually, the GINI coefficient is the measurement of the uneven distribution amount for income levels in that country. The values range from .01 to 1, lower being even income distribution while higher values indicating uneven levels. Also, that graph is a bit outdated, but nonetheless still allows people to get a general idea of the levels.

I find using the GINI coefficient accurate in terms of poverty and comparing the standard of living from country to country. It's also useful since there is no bias in it as it's a statistical measurement.

(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:I just don't understand the mentality of believing the world will end in our lifetime. Society is more peaceful now than it has even been, food supply grows even more exponentially paired with increasing population, and only about 10% of our land is actually used...

This is a very ignorant statement. There are people who would disagree with you and who hate society because of x, y, and/or z. Unless if you have some evidence to back up your claims, this is simply a stereotypical statement.

The reality of it is that supply will never meet demand, so to say such a claim like "food supply grows even more exponentially paired with increasing population" is a poor comparison. Moreover, there is too much bias in the statement as well.


Prepping beforehand is always a good idea, even if it seems far fetched. It's just another example although of the 2012 end world scenario. There were people who went to extreme lengths to prepare for a worst case scenario, yet nothing happened. Afterwards, it was a total waste of money, unless if they planned ahead of when the situation doesn't happen, so it continues for another year.

You can never be too cautious, especially with a complex system we call society.
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby CommanderOtto » Thu Apr 25, 2013 1:08 am

Draigun wrote:
CommanderOtto wrote:it's interesting what you say but I really don't think things are improving.

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world income is high and world hunger is on the rise even though food production has increased

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/health/2009-10-14-un-world-hunger_N.htm

Actually, the GINI coefficient is the measurement of the uneven distribution amount for income levels in that country. The values range from .01 to 1, lower being even income distribution while higher values indicating uneven levels. Also, that graph is a bit outdated, but nonetheless still allows people to get a general idea of the levels.

I find using the GINI coefficient accurate in terms of poverty and comparing the standard of living from country to country. It's also useful since there is no bias in it as it's a statistical measurement.


yep that's right.... sorry for the confusion though, I was going to say "world income inequality is high", got distracted and said "world income is high"...
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby [m'kay] » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:39 am

(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:It's fun to assume society will succumb to total breakdown in your lifetime?


You're being deliberately obtuse for no apparent reason. That's like saying that if someone LARPs then they literally want to live in medieval times and build a house out of [poo].
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby (=DK=)Samonuh » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:54 am

[m'kay] wrote:
(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:It's fun to assume society will succumb to total breakdown in your lifetime?


You're being deliberately obtuse for no apparent reason. That's like saying that if someone LARPs then they literally want to live in medieval times and build a house out of [poo].

So you guys are just pretending a doomsday is approaching? I don't understand the comparison...
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby [m'kay] » Thu Apr 25, 2013 2:57 am

Here I thought you at least had more between your ears than between your legs, but I guess some people really are that unlucky.
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby Duel of Fates » Thu Apr 25, 2013 8:46 am

Duel of Fates wrote:
(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:
Duel of Fates wrote:You do realize that you can have a hard time surviving more than three days without water?

Okay? Then prepare for those situations. That's fine and rational. But don't spend a good chunk of your income and time preparing for a permanent apocalypse that will never come in this lifetime. It's no way to live...


Define "permanent apocalypse".


Still waiting for your definition of "permanent apocalypse".
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Re: Doomday Preppers

Postby WD-40 » Thu Apr 25, 2013 11:18 am

(=DK=)Samonuh wrote:So you guys are just pretending a doomsday is approaching? I don't understand the comparison...

Pretending?? I think you missed the point. 'Preparing' for what we don't know for sure will or will not happen, is better than doing nothing and saying "Oh well...come what may...can't do anything about it now..." Besides with out a 'crystal ball', no one knows for sure. Point is, being prepared is better than being caught off guard and 'wishing' you had prepared. "Having it and not needing it, is better than needing it and not having it". It's not like it will go to waste. You can eat/drink/use the stuff that will be outdated soon, and replace it with new/fresh stuff. Buying it and wasting it is what I believe you take issue with.
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