Zimmerman Case

[Bryant]

This might be helpful. Read it and draw your own conclusions.
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/07/14/never-should-have-witnessed-zimmerman-trial/

It's the result of the media changing the race of Zimmerman, the age of Martin, inventing a racist edit of the 911 recording, and celebrity/political finger pointing. All for a slight boost in ratings and political approval.

[haasd0gg]

Right! But it did the trick to divide the nation racially and put gun laws under scrutiny.
Obama, awayyyyy!!!

[WD-40]

Right! But it did the trick to divide the nation racially and put gun laws under scrutiny.
Obama, awayyyyy!!!

Didnt think of that. Kinda like 'Full circle'. It's like a piece of Candy for the White House to stick it to the American Public just once more about 'gun control'.

Made me think
Get your head bashed against a side walk by a 17 year old football player:
2 choices:
1) Pull concealed gun out and shoot to stop your death, or
2) Die. (From said head bashing).

In all reality, Zimmerman really should have NOT have engaged Martin. He SHOULD have left it to responding Law Enforcement Officers. Playing 'cop' without proper Academy training and OJT is not wise.

My personal opinion(s)...
1) Zimmerman brought this on himself playing 'cop'.
2) Martin could have had a civil conversation with Zimmerman and 'proved' he was headed to his Dad's house, and NOT yet another Burglar running around.

Either scenario would have avoided this BS! Neither had the 'maturity' to do so.

[haasd0gg]

Tell ya what; regardless of this case, if houses were being broken into in my neighborhood and I saw a kid jump a fence, you can bet your ass I would follow him.
If he attacked me and I was carrying, I would certainly shoot him. I'm too old to take an ass whuppin anymore.

[Duel of Fates]

Tell ya what; regardless of this case, if houses were being broken into in my neighborhood and I saw a kid jump a fence, you can bet your ass I would follow him.
If he attacked me and I was carrying, I would certainly shoot him. I'm too old to take an ass whuppin anymore.

+1

[WD-40]

Tell ya what; regardless of this case, if houses were being broken into in my neighborhood and I saw a kid jump a fence, you can bet your ass I would follow him.
If he attacked me and I was carrying, I would certainly shoot him. I'm too old to take an ass whuppin anymore.

But! If you were Zimmerman 'Neighborhood Watch', or Deputy/Trooper (Academy/OJT Trained Police Officer), which would you choose to approach an unknown person like Travon Martin?

My point was that this was a situation that need not have existed. Zimmerman could/should have left it to the 'professionals'...I.E. the Police.

FBI Agents do NOT just 'casually' make traffic stops. Nor are they supposed to. When FBI makes such a stop, it is done with advanced intelligence of the person stopped. It also involves a 'Uniformed' Law Enforcement Officer for that Jurisdiction. I.E. one 'trained' to do so as FBI moves in. It adds 'legitimacy' but leaves the most dangerous part of a 'nab' in the hands of those best qualified to do it. The 'experts'...The Street Cops.

Dont get me wrong, FBI Agents are 'trained' to do traffic stops in Academy, and there is such a set procedure(s) to do it safely with/without police assistance. However, the FBI are NOT experts at this!

Martin was allegedly 'high' on drugs when approached. So was Zimmerman 'trained' to approach someone like this? Very unlikely. I know that only our specially trained Agents get this training. Street Agents do not. Street Cops do!

Street cops have the most repetitive/continuous dangerous jobs in Law Enforcement and are best trained/experienced at this and approaching/assessing unknown persons. At any given situation, without a crystal ball or pre-planned advanced intel, they just don't know what level of 'Danger' they are facing. I admire those guys/gals.

[JAF]

Zimmerman's neighborhood had had a high amount of break ins recorded, and if you see a 6 foot 1 guy with a hood on, while you are 5 foot 8. His actions were justified. These Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson people are acting like he's this 12 year old darling skipping down the street. For people uniformed by CNN, here are some pictures of what he looked like weeks before he was killed.

[WD-40]

Zimmerman's neighborhood had had a high amount of break ins recorded, and if you see a 6 foot 1 guy with a hood on, while you are 5 foot 8. His actions were justified. These Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson people are acting like he's this 12 year old darling skipping down the street. For people uniformed by CNN, here are some pictures of what he looked like weeks before he was killed.

What the hell does 'height' have to do with anything?? Read what I wrote!

[JAF]

Zimmerman's neighborhood had had a high amount of break ins recorded, and if you see a 6 foot 1 guy with a hood on, while you are 5 foot 8. His actions were justified. These Al Sharpton and Jessie Jackson people are acting like he's this 12 year old darling skipping down the street. For people uniformed by CNN, here are some pictures of what he looked like weeks before he was killed.

What the hell does 'height' have to do with anything?? Read what I wrote!

If he waited for the cops to come. Martin would have been gone by the time the cops showed up. It would have taken the cops 10-20 minutes to show up at least, and by then Martin would probably not be walking in the streets any more. And what does height have to do with it? It contradicts the bias that the media was trying to convey that he was a 12 year old angel with skittles and tea. It makes sense to say that Zimmerman had been getting beat up by Martin if he was 6 foot 1 rather than 5 foot 5. I understand your point, I just disagree with it.

[CommanderOtto]

yeah... I keep seeing kid pictures on tv but he was a young man already, smoking drugs and posting it on the internet. On top of that, he felt he was "man" enough to turn around and punch another man in the face several times. Zimmerman probably thought he was going to take his gun, so he acted in defense. But of course, WD is right in pointing out all of this could have been easily avoided and that Zimmerman should have not risked himself by following some guy with a hood if he was not a cop.