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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby WD-40 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:21 pm

(SWGO)Kren wrote: The problem ahead for the US is massive I'm afraid. If it is not tackled then society within the US will overtime start to collapse.

I'd say it's already happening.

(SWGO)Kren wrote:The liberty you fought for it now being consumed because you are trying to be everything to all people.

I interpret that as: "The liberty you fought for is now being abused by lazy-assed welfare recipients wanting government to give everything for free to all people."
Which is accurate either way you say it. 'Personal' responsibility seems to be getting pushed aside more and more.
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby Mandalore » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:34 pm

I wish someone would make a meme with that one grandpa saying "We might have completely [m'kay] up the financial and education systems in this country" on the top and then "but this is completely the fault of all those young and poor people" on the bottom. Because the truth of the matter is that the country that the dinosaurs complain about is exactly what they created.

Also, welfare spending is below the OECD average as of 2011. :) Entrepreneurship is also at a ten year high.
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby (SWGO)Kren » Sat Jul 20, 2013 2:43 pm

haasd0gg wrote:The Brits have racism too. I'm something of an expert, having seen the movie and all...


Lol, I on the other hand am not an expert given I've not seen the movies...but as you are something of an expert...



















Perhaps they try and convay a message but then again, they are only movies...
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby (SWGO)Kren » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:28 pm

Mandalore wrote:Having a dense population helps immensely as it focuses money and cuts drastically down on the price of services that the government usually provides such as police officers.


Perhaps this also has an impact upon crime?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-05-3 ... mated.html

...and considering Detroit is effectively bankrupt things are not going well at the moment and unfortunately this will directly impact the population within that sprawling metropolis:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... y/2552819/

Mandalore wrote:Then you have the issue of immigration. By the recent 2010 stats, 6.1 million people in Germany were born outside of it with Germany having the most first generation immigrants of EU nations. That's only six years of immigration for the United States. And obviously first generation immigrants are more likely to be in one of the lower classes of society and (should, but I don't know the statistics) correspondingly be more apt to commit crime.


And now with the new reform 11 million immigrants will be granted US citizenship perhaps this could be classified as first generation immigrants and the crime rate might increase accordingly? I'm curious if this will have an impact?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/ju ... ses-senate

Mandalore wrote:It's actually pretty incredible that the US stays in the same league as you lucky EU countries when it comes to most things. Don't worry though if you guys get out of hand again we'll come and kick your asses for the second or third time.


LOL….nightmare scenario for the US….you guy’s Vs. the rest of the world…let me think who would win, nobody. Anyway if it wasn’t for France (oh I’m forgetting a European country) you guys would still be a colony, I wonder how different things could be today? :whistling: (not a serious question, b4 anyone gets upset.)
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby Darth Crater » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:09 pm

MATTHEW'S_DAD wrote:Racism is a business here in the states and without it the professional race baiters would go broke. It is in Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's best interest to promote racism and to fan the flames. It keeps the money flowing. Because of this, I give zero weight and zero credibility to anyone who claims racism anymore, chicken little syndrome. It's a two way street and traffic in both directions equaled out when we elected our first "black" president.

Except racism does still exist, institutionally. I haven't noticed it directly because I'm white, but it's still there. And not just in the deep south, either. Let me quote myself from the Paula Deen thread:
Darth Crater wrote:Before anyone calls [citation needed] on that, let me link this: http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/race_at_work.pdf . New York City, 2005. Quite an interesting read. For example, white felons apparently have more luck in the job market than blacks with clean records.
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby MATTHEW'S_DAD » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:40 pm

(SWGO)Kren wrote: Anyway if it wasn’t for France (oh I’m forgetting a European country) you guys would still be a colony, I wonder how different things could be today? :whistling: (not a serious question, b4 anyone gets upset.)


I actually ponder that sometimes. I think it was inevitable that we would've broke free eventually, but it's an interesting point. Besides, we've MORE than repaid our debt to France. Lol, the French.
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby MATTHEW'S_DAD » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:42 pm

Darth Crater wrote:
MATTHEW'S_DAD wrote:Racism is a business here in the states and without it the professional race baiters would go broke. It is in Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson's best interest to promote racism and to fan the flames. It keeps the money flowing. Because of this, I give zero weight and zero credibility to anyone who claims racism anymore, chicken little syndrome. It's a two way street and traffic in both directions equaled out when we elected our first "black" president.

Except racism does still exist, institutionally. I haven't noticed it directly because I'm white, but it's still there. And not just in the deep south, either. Let me quote myself from the Paula Deen thread:
Darth Crater wrote:Before anyone calls [citation needed] on that, let me link this: http://www.princeton.edu/~pager/race_at_work.pdf . New York City, 2005. Quite an interesting read. For example, white felons apparently have more luck in the job market than blacks with clean records.


Meh. I see it run both ways a great deal. I think some people just don't like other people and it will always be that way. I believe the effort to force the fringes to like each other will result it more hatred between those who really didn't care to begin with. I blame Obama. :mrgreen:
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby haasd0gg » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:50 pm

Obama has been continuously stoking the racial fire with the Zimmerman case.
It started with "if I had a son, he would look like trayvon".
I wonder why he didn't go on TV saying that if he had a son, he would look like De'Marquise Elkins...
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby Mandalore » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:25 pm

America vs the EU would be a pretty short war. And America would have been free. Obviously the French navy guaranteed the victory at York town but guerrilla movements have shown for centuries how effective they are against fighting conventional soldiers. Also I wouldn't say we really saved the French from anything but getting steam rolled by the Soviet Union.

On topic, the politicized racism [poo] got old real quick. However, to say that stand your ground wasn't involved in some degree is silly. Juror B37 is already on record saying it was discussed.
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Re: Zimmerman Case

Postby CommanderOtto » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:57 pm

haasd0gg wrote:Obama has been continuously stoking the racial fire with the Zimmerman case.
It started with "if I had a son, he would look like trayvon".
I wonder why he didn't go on TV saying that if he had a son, he would look like De'Marquise Elkins...


lol true
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