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Re: Benghazi

Postby Duel of Fates » Thu Nov 28, 2013 2:12 pm

The Master wrote:Bump still no WMD's in Iraq.

Oops our memories don't go back that far.... :roll:


Bump. FDR was a socialist, pushing socialist and unconstitutional programs.

Bump. 1913 was still the worst year ever for Americans. Wilson was president, created the Federal Reserve, IRS, and federal income tax.

Bump. Teddy Roosevelt made the mistake of prescribing to the belief of America's "Manifest Destiny" which has caused us no end of bad foreign policies which haunt us today.

:roll: How is that for memory? Dip [poo].
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Re: Benghazi

Postby CommanderOtto » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:28 pm

Duel of Fates wrote:
The Master wrote:Bump still no WMD's in Iraq.

Oops our memories don't go back that far.... :roll:


Bump. FDR was a socialist, pushing socialist and unconstitutional programs.

Bump. 1913 was still the worst year ever for Americans. Wilson was president, created the Federal Reserve, IRS, and federal income tax.

Bump. Teddy Roosevelt made the mistake of prescribing to the belief of America's "Manifest Destiny" which has caused us no end of bad foreign policies which haunt us today.

:roll: How is that for memory? Dip [poo].


I don't understand why you think the creation of the federal reserve is a bad thing. Whether the presidents are dems or reps, or if they did good or bad things, the federal reserve definitely helped control the economy. That's why all countries have a central bank now.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby 11_Panama_ » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:40 pm

It's a bad thing Otto because first of all... it's not a Govt' agency.. it's private (meaning owned by a person(s)). Secondly, they print our money and "lend it" to us.. with interest. There's more, but I can't think of them right now (occupied with the Packers game). GO PACKERS!!!
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Re: Benghazi

Postby CommanderOtto » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:56 pm

11_Panama_ wrote:It's a bad thing Otto because first of all... it's not a Govt' agency.. it's private (meaning owned by a person(s)). Secondly, they print our money and "lend it" to us.. with interest. There's more, but I can't think of them right now (occupied with the Packers game). GO PACKERS!!!


Pan, you are probably confusing it with something else. The federal reserve is not private and is accountable to congress. However, they are probably one of the best managed institutions from the U.S government since the Chairman of the Federal Reserve does not need approval from the President to make decisions regarding interest rates or some kinds of financial regulation (shielded from bad political stuff). Of course, there are some idiots that become chairmen and make terrible decisions, but overall they are very respected economists.

besides, they don't lend the money to people, it's the other way around. The interest rates are there because that means people like you and me, or banks can lend money to the government and get some profit. That's what Bonds are. When you buy a government Bond you are lending money to them, and in exchange you get more money after a few years. And it's very useful... for example, I don't see how the U.S would have been able to win World War II without selling bonds. The fed does lend to banks sometimes... but that's a more complicated feature of the central bank for certain situations.

http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_14986.htm

Their job:
control monetary policy... in other words, stop excessive inflation or excessive deflation. That's why they sometimes have to "print money", which is not bad all the time, as most people believe.

but anyway, I just wanted to clarify this... Duel, I know the topic is benghazi, so sorry if I went out of topic :whistling: I like economics, so if anyone wants to ask me about this stuff, i'll always be available to explain how this stuff works.

EDIT: btw, private banks do have some involvement in the 12 Regional Federal Reserve banks... but these are only there to provide certain services for regional banks. Besides, private banks also need to be involved in the operations of the Federal Reserve to make sure that as an institution of the government it won't destroy the operation of banks or the economy either. It is a way of making the Fed accountable to some extent.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby MATTHEW'S_DAD » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:39 pm

When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic. - Ben Franklin
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Re: Benghazi

Postby Duel of Fates » Wed Jan 15, 2014 4:14 pm

It still never fails to amaze me the efforts of some to C.Y.A. I would love to know what Barry was doing during the attack. Sleeping? Boning up for his Vegas fund raising trip? And why the hell is Hillary still a viable candidate for the next presidential election? Her failures as Sec Of State should have killed her political career.


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Re: Benghazi

Postby CommanderOtto » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:28 am

Hillary acted just like other people do when they suck at their jobs. At work, in a moment of crisis, the people in charge just try to cover their butts and blame others for their mistakes. This is no different. If she was Sec of State, she had to face the consequences of her irresponsibility instead of blaming others and ignoring the situation.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby 11_Panama_ » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:34 am

She didn't fail.. her boss Obama did. She answers to him, so she most likely did exactly what she was told.
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Re: Benghazi

Postby WD-40 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:42 am

I hope these words haunt the living [poo] outta her stupid, opportunistic, self-centered politicking fat ass (and Thunder-Thighs) forever!
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Re: Benghazi

Postby NiteRunner81 » Thu Jan 16, 2014 4:43 am

Hopefully within the next two years her daughter starts popping out kids that way she can take up knitting instead.
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