Evolution & Creationism Debate at Museum

[(SWGO)SirPepsi]

Sorry Otto but this statement is one I've come across to often from religious types and I have always felt confused or pity for the statement or person suggesting it. The point of life should be obvious to most but as it seems not all. How about living your life to the full, having fun, finding love, finding a special person to love and enjoy your life together. How about doing something worthwhile with your time, helping someone or how about just trying to be the best person you can be. How about treating people fairly, how about learning new things and opening your mind to all around you. How about not worrying to much about how you got here and just try and do the above and have a good time while you are doing it.

I don't always get it right but that's how I live my life. I don't and will never believe in a god, but if there was a God I would shake his or her hand and thank them for making me an Atheist.

Thank you for this Sawyer - this is one of the most well-worded responses to questions about the purpose of life. You have made my day.

[-)G(-Sawyer]

A painful truth is more important than a beautiful lie.

Poetic

[(SWGO)SirPepsi]

A painful truth is more important than a beautiful lie.

Poetic

Humans interact in the most interesting of ways. We form relationships, communities, desires, and we strive to accomplish. If you examine the human psyche, it is easy to see why many take solace in their belief in God, but at the same time, I think it is fair to say that Atheists are not (categorically speaking) sorrowful, they are not deterred by their lack of belief in God or in an afterlife. I think it's important to understand human thought and drive; I don't think that the Greeks' consolation ("wherever they speak your name, you shall live") is necessary to want a fruitful life - being with those we care most about and enjoying the present are what ensure we keep going.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU6bc_Gsp7s&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PLB9336E570939389C

[11_Panama_]

You poor souls. I'll send ya' all a postcard. If we just die to nothing.. what do you have to lose to belief in a "higher power"? If I'm told that all God wants is for me to love, respect, and look after each other... he's a God I believe in.


PS. Bet none of you saw that video I linked. I know it's long but it was interesting. Even I learned a few things.

[-)G(-Sawyer]

what do you have to lose to belief in a "higher power"?.

Or what do we have to gain? in this case nothing. Or why would anyone in my position now choose to believe in God, not possible is the answer and the same logic can be applied to me wanting to believe in Father Christmas or that the moon is made of cheese. Might sound silly but no one here or anywhere else can prove to me that God, Father Christmas or the cheese moon are real. so until then I will concern myself with ers that are real.

[Mandalore]

The thing is pan...the God you believe in, assuming it is the God of judaism, christianity, and Islam is by the admission of their own holy books is basically a classic dictator when you take the text as a whole. And at the point you are cherry picking from your religion that's the ultimate in being intellectually bankrupt just for the sake of your own comfort.

At this point religion in the west stands as a moderate impediment to gender and sexual equality along with the engraining of anti science and intellectualism. However we only have to look to the middle east to see what religion does without the constraint of secularism.

[Duel of Fates]

And this is where the discussion degenerates to nothing but "why I am better than you" arguments. I enjoyed the first five or so pages. It was good to see true debating. But the last couple lagged. Oh well.

[-)G(-Sawyer]

And this is where the discussion degenerates to nothing but "why I am better than you" arguments. I enjoyed the first five or so pages. It was good to see true debating. But the last couple lagged. Oh well.

I partially agree with that. I just think the whole post has been that way from the start. We all know that when religion and politics come up people on opposite sides will never agree and normally doesn't end great. Still lets not loose site on the fact many people can get on with each other regardless of these views like we do here playing a silly little game like SWBF2.

Night night

[11_Panama_]

what do you have to lose to belief in a "higher power"?.

Or what do we have to gain? in this case nothing. .

What do we have to gain? Everlasting life, seeing old family, no more pain or tears. Once again...sign me up.
Remember... you said nothing happens, that's a sad thing to believe in.

[11_Panama_]

The thing is pan...the God you believe in, assuming it is the God of judaism, christianity, and Islam is by the admission of their own holy books is basically a classic dictator when you take the text as a whole. And at the point you are cherry picking from your religion that's the ultimate in being intellectually bankrupt just for the sake of your own comfort.

At this point religion in the west stands as a moderate impediment to gender and sexual equality along with the engraining of anti science and intellectualism. However we only have to look to the middle east to see what religion does without the constraint of secularism.

Mandy... I don't know which God your talking about. I belief if you accept Jesus Christ as our saviour, and I do, is all He asked. All that other stuff is no longer required. See guys, I have faith. No one "debunked" God or Jesus. Until that day.. I believe. It's not hurting me any to believe. I believe Jesus was here, died for all of us, and opened a gate that most of us wouldn't been able to enter before.. because of sin. I believe all that.
My faith has been shaken before, when I was young, and I asked for a sign.. he gave it to me. I've been a believer ever since. I still don't believe in religion though.. these so called "men of God". All in it for themselves, not for God. Guess that could be a separate subject in itself.