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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby Duel of Fates » Thu Jun 26, 2014 8:18 am

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yeah but Duel, although everyone looses if grades are redistributed, it isn't that simple in the economy. If the lower sectors of the population are doing very badly in income through time, then that means social mobility decreases, racial problems increase, health problems increase, and the economy is weakened as people cannot afford buying things like they used to... and then companies loose money, unemployment increases...


Hey Otto, some of us working stiffs that sweat our balls off trying to keep a roof over our kids heads, keep the family fed, and saving whatever and where ever we can are getting tired of the government taking our money, money that we earned with sweat and sometimes blood. I see how the real world works. I am grinding out the hours working my ass off and dealing with those "poor" souls who have to live on welfare, food stamps, social security disabilities, etc. when they get there welfare checks on the first of the month and head to the casino and blow their money playing the slots or losing it on the tables. They have their iphones, ipads, blue tooth phone sets. They blow hundreds of dollars, but they don't have enough money to buy food for their children? How do I sign up for that [poo]? When the government makes it easier for people to get on welfare, and to stay on welfare, there is no incentive to find a job and earn a living.

I tell you this, if I didn't pay taxes on my income, on the hours that I work, I would be much better off. I could afford to buy things for my family, I could afford healthcare, and my social mobility would increase. If I buy more things, that is good for the economy, because the stores make money, and the people who make those items earn a living. But no, I give it to the government in the form of taxes so Jamal and Rufus can sit on their asses watching nice big screen tvs. You want to get people off welfare? Quit paying them to sit on their asses.

It also irks me some that the government can find new ways to blow money out their asses. Just look at how much it cost to set up the Healthcare website. What a [m'kay] joke. Look at the IRS budget. They have over a Billion dollars budgeted for their IT department, and they cannot recover lost emails from a hardrive crash? I could go on, but just got done with my shift where a percentage of my toil goes to this kind of [poo]. Sorry if I seem pissed. The real world is not found on graphs, and text books. Its a lot messier, and noble ideas are left by the wayside.

I want to do my share, pay my taxes, live comfortably and provide for my family. I do not want to see the government waste my hard earned dollars on corruption, unwise spending, and frivolous pork barrel spending. If everyone ran their households like the government runs itself, everyone would be broke too, spending what you do not have, on [poo] you do not need, to impress people you do not like. I am all for fair taxation, just not blindly giving it to politicians so they can waste it and spend more than they have.
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby NiteRunner81 » Thu Jun 26, 2014 2:17 pm

Duel,

From your mouth to (enter deity here)'s ears..
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby (SWGO)DesertEagle » Thu Jun 26, 2014 3:04 pm

Preach it brother.
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby LordFred » Sat Jun 28, 2014 3:47 pm

All taxation is theft - Josiah Warren
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby deadmeow » Sat Jun 28, 2014 4:07 pm

Taxation is theft. It is nothing but extortion, as tax is obtained through coercion and violence.
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby WD-40 » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:19 pm

deadmeow wrote:Taxation is theft. It is nothing but extortion, as tax is obtained through coercion and violence.

"No Taxation without Representation"!!!

Oh wait...We have Representation...sorta...
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby Darth Crater » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:25 pm

LordFred wrote:All taxation is theft - Josiah Warren

deadmeow wrote:Taxation is theft. It is nothing but extortion, as tax is obtained through coercion and violence.

How's this deal sound? Stop paying taxes, and give up all the things you only have because of that taxation.

Have fun living without roads. And good luck with your 16-hours-a-day job that pays you in company scrip. Oh, and try not to get on the wrong side of the criminal cartels, local warlords, or ongoing foreign occupation.
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby Duel of Fates » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:55 pm

Darth Crater wrote:
LordFred wrote:All taxation is theft - Josiah Warren

deadmeow wrote:Taxation is theft. It is nothing but extortion, as tax is obtained through coercion and violence.

How's this deal sound? Stop paying taxes, and give up all the things you only have because of that taxation.

Have fun living without roads. And good luck with your 16-hours-a-day job that pays you in company scrip. Oh, and try not to get on the wrong side of the criminal cartels, local warlords, or ongoing foreign occupation.



Now who is fear mongering? I for one could survive and thrive with less "help" from the Federal Government.
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Re: You think you are paying high taxes? Think again...

Postby deadmeow » Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:28 pm

Darth Crater posted :
"How's this deal sound? Stop paying taxes, and give up all the things you only have because of that taxation.

Have fun living without roads. And good luck with your 16-hours-a-day job that pays you in company scrip. Oh, and try not to get on the wrong side of the criminal cartels, local warlords, or ongoing foreign occupation"

First of all, anyone can donate to build roads. Second of all, if people share resources there is no reason to work 16 hour a day jobs. Third, government are cartels, warlords and occupiers.

Formal government is usually the most powerful government of the region, so they have fancy uniforms, agencies, and may even let you vote in their rigged system that they created to let you think you may have some say. Informal government are street gangs, mafias, yakuza, triads. Government is controlling people with coercion and violence.

The largest genocides on the planet could not occur without government, and this is a fact. It has happened on every continent. The point is to not fix 100% of the problems in one lifetime, as it can never be done. The point is to start fixing them so our grandchildren and ourselves have a kind planet to return to one day. But to do these things you must let go of the thing called FEAR.
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