Why MT doesn't believe in this.

[Darth Crater]

That Yahoo Answer you post cites no sources, is poorly written (it seems to mean 1 in 10^950, not 1 in 10950), and based on its including this number in the "question" can only be seen as propaganda. Show me that same number (1 in 10^950) from a reputable source, and I'll still contest that that number is absolutely insane and impossible.

indeed hence why i said "i googled" i find it lacking, but since you all want more reliable links here are some links:
http://www.evolutiondeceit.com/chapter11_1.php< this one contains the exact calculation on wich 10^950 is based( and it's far worse then 1 in a billion)
http://www.harunyahya.com/evolutiondeceit10.php

If you consider those reputable sources, then we're done here.

[THEWULFMAN]

How can you 'prove' that you, in fact, 'exist'?!?

I think, therefore I am.

But 'how' can you prove that you are, in fact, 'thinking' in some reality?..I and everyone else could be a fake reality. Problem is, 'thinking' or your perception of thinking doesn't prove you exist anymore than you can prove God is real. I believe he is Real and He created everything. Beyond that…I don't really give a flying [m'kay].

You asked if I can prove I exist. I answered. Proving the world I live in is real is another thing.

Of course we could go on about what is or is not real.

@MT I don't have an counter argument prepared, I'm super busy right now (Mom's in the hospital). But I shall return.

[Col. Hstar]

Sorry it wasn't valid.
Also FYI the US dropped a couple of things called atomic bombs on Japan (it didn't only target the military) I guess that just slipped your memory, also the untold millions of innocents killed "accidentally" with carpet bombings and land mines etc.
And The Bible more exactly the "old testament" is more then the history of the Jews. (Genesis 1:1) As I said before you should restrain yourself from making statements about the Bible, a book you clearly do not understand. I don't care to discuss this anymore with you, you have your beliefs I have mine. We'll leave it at that

[Col. Hstar]

MT you got to the point about the Atom Bomb faster then me
I guess I type toooo slow

[Darth Crater]

Originally this was edited in above, but it's here to respond to Hstar as well:

The comparison was quite valid. Both have committed genocide. There have been many successful wars without full scale genocide throughout history. The US didn't kill every German and Japanese person we could find when we won WW2 even though Japan provoked us.

However the atomic bomb wiped em all off the face of earth, innocent people as well, childred who had no knowledge of what was going on in the word, and after that mass destruction they dropped another know KNOWING what would happen.

We did that because the alternative was a full-scale invasion, which would have killed millions more on both sides and ruined Japan completely. And both sides had openly attacked civilians previously (Rape of Nanking, firebombing of Dresden/Tokyo, etc).

[THEWULFMAN]

Actually, you know what? Screw this crap. MT obviouslly has no clue what the heck he is talking about half the time, or I'm thoroughly convinced he's just a troll. My mom's in the hospital, I have way better things to be doing with my time than arguing with a troll. Like I don't know, working on my Battlefront 3 mod, or debating with someone who can spell "science".

Well everything is made out of atoms, atoms are made out of air, how come we don't fall trew the floor?

Imagen you got all the components to make a Nespresso coffie machine, now put them in a box.
shake the box as long as you want, billion of years if needed, now what are the chances that upon opening the box you got a nespresso machine?
MT

Yet can you tell me who designed this "nespresso" machine, as for some reason in the creation of a simple protein molecule you need the exact pattern, not just a ramdom order, just like the nespresso machince it cannot be ramdomly made, but science has no explinacion for the reason why it has to be this specific patern, and not a ramdom one.

My thoughts exactly.


AND do NOT get me started on the atomic bombs dropped on Japan, as I do not have time to prove how much of a military history geek I am(thanks dad, No not the SWGO dad, my dad lol). Long story short: WAR SUCKS.

[Mandalore]

As Crater said, the atomic bomb was the better alternative. I think you're purposefully misrepresenting what I'm saying. We both know that in war innocents die. Genocide is the purposeful wiping out of everything that belongs to that nation.

I think the fact that you think you can understand the mind of an infinite being through a novel is quite amusing.

[(SWGO)Minas_Thirith]

@Yanoda

1-Tar has been ussed before then, em before then? how much before? because basicly that was it, the story of noah doesn't come thousands of years after the story of adam and eve
Also note
Gen 2:4,5 This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.
Now there was as yet no bush of the field found in the earth and no vegetation of the field was as yet sprouting, because Jehovah God had not made it rain upon the earth and there was no man to cultivate the ground.

No rain, who said there were boats? also then where did they get water at that time.
Gen 2:10 now there was a river issuing out of E´den to water the garden, and from there it began to be parted and it became, as it were, four heads
Gen 6:15 And this is how you will make it: three hundred cubits the length of the ark, fifty cubits its width, and thirty cubits its height.
Did you even bother to look up how ENOURMOUS the ark would have been? Also who said animals ate animals before man's mistake? remember the earth was cursed

2- I do not claim the Israelites destroyed the Egyptians, i'm stating that if the ocean didn't split in 2 and crushed the egyptian army, then who did? they were the strongest and most feared army in their time.

3- So the bible is being writen right now? or was the bible finished over almost 2000 years ago?
Mathew 24: 6,7 YOU are going to hear of wars and reports of wars; see that YOU are not terrified. For these things must take place, but the end is not yet.
“For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another.
Ecclesiastes 8:9 "All this I have seen, and there was an applying of my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, [during] the time that man has dominated man to his injury."

Aren't we seeing this things?

4- I did try to find the odds on the pages You posted, they only claim the odds are wrong, they aren't posting actual odds.
http://ontherightside.wordpress.com/articles/the-odds-against-life/
I did try to find this on the NASA but i'm confused by how to find this on their page

PS. Seriosly guys i don't even get the time to respond to one person before the other responds , sorry if it's double posted or a mixup

MT

[Mandalore]

I think I'll just post a paraphrase from Jim Jefferies and let time take its course. :)

So God plopped two white people in the jungle without sunscreen and they [m'kay]. Now thousands of years later we have white people, black people, arab people, oriental people and for the amount of inbreeding, very few retards.

[(SWGO)Minas_Thirith]

I think I'll just post a paraphrase from Jim Jefferies and let time take its course. :)

So God plopped two white people in the jungle without sunscreen and they [m'kay]. Now thousands of years later we have white people, black people, arab people, oriental people and for the amount of inbreeding, very few retards.

Where in the bible does it say 2 white people?
Also i do think that yanoda posted something earlier that animals color evolving over time has been prooven

If you consider those reputable sources, then we're done here.

No i do not however in the links that were given to me as in "reputable sources" noone talks about what the actual odds are they only deny the actual odds.
I'm still look into "reputable" sources.
Edit: I "think" this page was mencioned earlier http://www.evolutionfaq.com/articles/probability-life

So it seems that it's not 1 in 10^16(aka a billion) as i quoted the first time, it's 10^40, thanks for helping me making the odds i tought it was even worse, note that 1 to 10^40 is 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000001% chance of this being able to happen and i tought 0.00000000000001% was bad
We are talking about only proteins here, not the posiblility of the 1square CM, nor RNA happening nor them being at the same place, nor them working together, just random chance a protein comes to be in our planet

MT