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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby CommanderOtto » Sun Nov 25, 2012 1:13 am

true. That's why I am controlling my impulse to create a thread about obamacare.I needed to know a few things but with all the biased comments, i'll never get a good answer.
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby WD-40 » Sun Nov 25, 2012 2:12 am

Obamacare?!? OMG don't get me started!! :lol:
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby CommanderOtto » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:04 am

WD-40 wrote:Obamacare?!? OMG don't get me started!! :lol:


hahahahaha!

if I do write that thread it will probably go on for 50 pages :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby Col. Hstar » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:14 am

You were not one of the two Otto
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby CommanderOtto » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:18 am

Col. Homestar wrote:You were not one of the two Otto


oh ok lol, just making sure :whistling: Just edited and deleted what I said then.
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby kjeopardy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:27 am

WD-40 wrote:Obamacare?!? OMG don't get me started!! :lol:


Trust me, you guys don't wanna go there!!!!

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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby kjeopardy » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:27 am

WD-40 wrote:Obamacare?!? OMG don't get me started!! :lol:


Trust me, you guys don't wanna go there!!!!

Once you uncap that bottle all hell's gonna break loose.
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby Outrider » Sun Nov 25, 2012 8:52 am

CommanderOtto wrote:and yes we are being slowly persecuted by atheists...You don't agree with the theory of evolution and you are called ignorant. Do I need to continue?

In regards to life on Earth in its current form, there are three types of Christians: 1) Young Earth creationists - those who believe Genesis is the literal truth, 2) Old Earth creationists - those who believe that God had a hand in guiding evolution, and 3) non-creationists - those who accept the theory of evolution that is agreed upon by the scientific community. So one can be a Christian (i.e. a person who believes in Jesus Christ and his teachings, etc.) and still accept evolution in one form or another.

Now, there are two types of Young Earth creationists: 1) those who fully understand what evolution entails, and 2) those who think they know for certain what evolution is about. The latter are the people who usually bring up abiogenesis and the Big Bang when inquiring about evolution. They also ask things such as, "If we came from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys around?" And they come up with silly arguments such as saying evolution is only a theory, therefore it isn't credible. Just these people are ignorant.
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby Col. Hstar » Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:28 am

Outrider wrote:Now, there are two types of Young Earth creationists: 1) those who fully understand what evolution entails, and 2) those who think they know for certain what evolution is about. The latter are the people who usually bring up abiogenesis and the Big Bang when inquiring about evolution. They also ask things such as, "If we came from monkeys, then why are there still monkeys around?" And they come up with silly arguments such as saying evolution is only a theory, therefore it isn't credible. Just these people are ignorant.


And then there are the people who like to claim that evolution is a scientific fact and thus means there is no God. Yet while they are able to show different tests and experiments of how this process could happen, they have no way of proving that it did happen. When answering the question of how it all began, they are left with that same leap of faith that every single person must make. (That is those who are younger then 1,000,000 years old) And yes I know the process in the theory of evolution, and the origins of life are 2 separate subjects but they are bound together when asking the question is there or is there not a God

Both involve faith—atheism in purposeless blind chance; theism in an intelligent First Cause. Atheists like to wave the banner of science over their camp, the fact is that neither atheism nor theism rest purely on science, the only difference is that religious people who believe in God or a higher power are comfortable with this. Someone who has written off the idea of God, knows that blind chance is a flimsy argument so they try make it seem that science is completely proving them right, when it hasn't. Because heaven forbid they admit that they believe in something that is faith based.
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Re: American Christians, do you feel persecuted?

Postby (SWGO)SirPepsi » Sun Nov 25, 2012 3:22 pm

Col. Homestar wrote:And then there are the people who like to claim that evolution is a scientific fact and thus means there is no God. Yet while they are able to show different tests and experiments of how this process could happen, they have no way of proving that it did happen. When answering the question of how it all began, they are left with that same leap of faith that every single person must make. (That is those who are younger then 1,000,000 years old) And yes I know the process in the theory of evolution, and the origins of life are 2 separate subjects but they are bound together when asking the question is there or is there not a God

Both involve faith—atheism in purposeless blind chance; theism in an intelligent First Cause. Atheists like to wave the banner of science over their camp, the fact is that neither atheism nor theism rest purely on science, the only difference is that religious people who believe in God or a higher power are comfortable with this. Someone who has written off the idea of God, knows that blind chance is a flimsy argument so they try make it seem that science is completely proving them right, when it hasn't. Because heaven forbid they admit that they believe in something that is faith based.


You see, you assume that adherents to evolutionist philosophy depend on blind chance. This is simply not true; multiple discoveries have been made adding to and helping the Theory of Evolution adapt to accommodate new evidence. Fossil records, study of bacteria mutations (in medicine, etc.), and speculation as to certain species acquired traits. Evolution as it is is not accepted as solid truth, but the scientific community (as a majority) accepts that explanations stemming from Darwinists as to the origins of life are the most accurate posed hitherto.
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