Fiscal Cliff Prediction

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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby [m'kay] » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:36 pm

Jedi Power wrote:And this is why this country is going down the drain fast with people who say "who cares?" and "I'm sick of hearing about it." I hope you all like being the damn United States of China!! :angry:



Oh man, up until now hyperbole was the thing that pissed me off about politics and made me uninterested, but the UNITED STATES OF CHINA?!?!?!?!?! lock and load, oorah, lets [m'kay] some japs up


what do you mean china isn't japan


shut the [m'kay] up commie
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby CommanderOtto » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:37 pm



I don't really believe in this... but that's how people feel.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby Darth Crater » Sat Dec 08, 2012 4:49 pm

Two main problems with that. First, stimulus spending actually works. Basic Keynesian economics. Second, if we collapse for some reason, so does the rest of the world. Including China. Especially China, given the amount of interconnection and trade.

As for the overall fiscal cliff situation - taxes on the rich are rising, period. Neither side wants to tax any other group - doing so is bad for the economy. If the Republicans in the House stop their policy of "stonewall absolutely everything", they will actually have a chance to help the country by preventing that.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby Hobo » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:17 pm

Jedi Power wrote:And this is why this country is going down the drain fast with people who say "who cares?" and "I'm sick of hearing about it." I hope you all like being the damn United States of China!! :angry:

I was only making a joke, I'm just tired of all these political threads...
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby (=DK=)Samonuh » Sat Dec 08, 2012 5:44 pm

Jedi Power wrote:And this is why this country is going down the drain fast with people who say "who cares?" and "I'm sick of hearing about it." I hope you all like being the damn United States of China!! :angry:

See, this is the reason I have this attitude on these forums. People like you who pretend they understand what they're talking about, and then I cringe a little...United States of China? Yea, okay.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby mrjamwin » Sat Dec 08, 2012 6:26 pm

Darth Crater wrote:Two main problems with that. First, stimulus spending actually works. Basic Keynesian economics. Second, if we collapse for some reason, so does the rest of the world. Including China. Especially China, given the amount of interconnection and trade.

As for the overall fiscal cliff situation - taxes on the rich are rising, period. Neither side wants to tax any other group - doing so is bad for the economy. If the Republicans in the House stop their policy of "stonewall absolutely everything", they will actually have a chance to help the country by preventing that.


Where has it worked? You show me where it worked and I will show you list of a hundred companies that folded after being given stimulus money.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby Darth Crater » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:06 pm

You seem to be using a much more narrow version of "stimulus" than I was. Stimulus isn't propping up individual doomed companies. It's about fixing the economy overall and countering the effects of a recession. And economists and nonpartisan groups say it worked.
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby Duel of Fates » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:07 pm

mrjamwin wrote:
Darth Crater wrote:Two main problems with that. First, stimulus spending actually works. Basic Keynesian economics. Second, if we collapse for some reason, so does the rest of the world. Including China. Especially China, given the amount of interconnection and trade.

As for the overall fiscal cliff situation - taxes on the rich are rising, period. Neither side wants to tax any other group - doing so is bad for the economy. If the Republicans in the House stop their policy of "stonewall absolutely everything", they will actually have a chance to help the country by preventing that.


Where has it worked? You show me where it worked and I will show you list of a hundred companies that folded after being given stimulus money.



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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby WD-40 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:07 pm

mrjamwin wrote:
Darth Crater wrote:Two main problems with that. First, stimulus spending actually works. Basic Keynesian economics. Second, if we collapse for some reason, so does the rest of the world. Including China. Especially China, given the amount of interconnection and trade.

As for the overall fiscal cliff situation - taxes on the rich are rising, period. Neither side wants to tax any other group - doing so is bad for the economy. If the Republicans in the House stop their policy of "stonewall absolutely everything", they will actually have a chance to help the country by preventing that.


Where has it worked? You show me where it worked and I will show you list of a hundred companies that folded after being given stimulus money.

+ 2...Well said! "Apparently, those shovel-ready projects (that Obama pissed Billions on) wernt as shovel-ready as we thought." Obama said this! Well no-shiit Sherlock! You (Obama) are an ignorant moron when it comes to common sense spending and business practices! I get that. What I don't get, is that there are soo damn many ignorant/stupid voters out there that want to give you yet another 4 years to [m'kay] things up even more! Obhh...sorry...Did i say that out loud? :mrgreen:
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Re: Fiscal Cliff Prediction

Postby Darth Crater » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:15 pm

I get that you guys like to echo anything that sounds like a good talking point, but do you actually have any evidence to counter said nonpartisan groups and economists?
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