Roe v. Wade (1973)

[Col. Hstar]

It is easier, cheaper, and less hassle to just abort a child than to adopt. Says a lot about the society we live in eh?[/color]

Exactly
This is a society which is ok with taking a life to shield someone from the consequences of their own actions.

[WD-40]

Yes, Obama made his remarks applauding the anniversary for legalized abortions. Estimated human cost of 55 million lives snuffed out. Yay.

Too bad his Mom didn't contribute.

[WD-40]

i don't even believe abortion to be murder, it's the murder of a pregnancy, and it's not even painful for the fetus.

A fetus that's developed enough has a brain, a spine and all the sensory of pain or comfort that you have. Case in point:
http://www.lifenews.com/2013/04/08/gosnell-worker-baby-screamed-during-live-birth-abortion/

[Col. Hstar]

Diary of an unborn Baby (From Awake Magazine)

OCTOBER 5:
Today my life began. My parents do not know it yet, but it is I already. And I am to be a girl. I shall have blond hair and blue eyes. Just about everything is settled though, even the fact that I shall love flowers.
OCTOBER 19:
Some say that I am not a real person yet, that only my mother exists. But I am a real person, just as a small crumb of bread is yet truly bread. My mother is. And I am.
OCTOBER 23:
My mouth is just beginning to open now. Just think, in a year or so I shall be laughing and later talking. I know what my first word will be: MAMA.
OCTOBER 25:
My heart began to beat today all by itself. From now on it shall gently beat for the rest of my life without ever stopping to rest! And after many years it will tire. It will stop, and then I shall die.
NOVEMBER 2:
I am growing a bit every day. My arms and legs are beginning to take shape. But I have to wait a long time yet before those little legs will raise me to my mother's arms, before these little arms will be able to gather flowers and embrace my father.
NOVEMBER 12:
Tiny fingers are beginning to form on my hands. Funny how small they are! I'll be able to stroke my mother's hair with them.
NOVEMBER 20:
It wasn't until today that the doctor told mom that I am living here under her heart. Oh, how happy she must be! Are you happy, mom?
NOVEMBER 25:
My mom and dad are probably thinking about a name for me. But they don't even know that I am a little girl. I want to be called Kathy. I am getting so big already.
DECEMBER 10:
My hair is growing. It is smooth and bright and shiny. I wonder what kind of hair mom has?
DECEMBER 13:
I am just about able to see. It is dark around me. When mom brings me into the world it will be full of sunshine and flowers. But what I want more than anything is to see my mom. How do you look, mom?
DECEMBER 24:
I wonder if mom hears the whispering of my heart? Some children come into the world a little sick. But my heart is strong and healthy. It beats so evenly: tup-tup, tup-tup. You'll have a healthy little daughter, mom!
DECEMBER 28:
Today my mother killed me.

[(SWGO)SirPepsi]

Homestar, I happen to agree with you, but to sway minds you'll need compelling evidence, well-worded, well-articulated argument, not this.

[Col. Hstar]

Homestar, I happen to agree with you, but to sway minds you'll need compelling evidence, well-worded, well-articulated argument, not this.

I highly doubt minds will be swayed from what is said on a Star Wars gaming website. If they're that easily swayed, it won't take a well worded, well articulated argument I assure you.

I mean really did you see the first evolution /creation thread. Almost 1000 posts, many with much time put in them and did you ever see anyone say "Oh I guess I was wrong your side is right"? People are set in their ways and debate here is not going to change it. People talking face to face have more trust, respect, and attention for the people they are talking to. Online, we don't know who the person sitting on the other side of the screen is, so we aren't going to make a philosophical change because Col. Homestar made an argument with compelling evidence, which was well worded, and well articulated.

Posting links for "evidence" does nothing. Half the information on the internet is false, incomplete, slanted, or editorialized. I would post a link to prove this but I found 3 different studies with three different results, plus a couple of sites saying the internet is 100% propaganda so.....

Pepsi If you want to take time to develop long well worded, well articulated arguments then be my guest. To be quite honest it sounds more like you had a problem with the substance of my post then the fact that it was emotional.

[WD-40]

Actually, I thought Homestar's post was very appropriate. I read the whole thing, and felt it was a solid post of perspective from an unborn child. Not meant to be over-analyzed or nit-picked.

[Son]

I agree with Wd... Sometimes an emotional response to ers like this are stronger than any "proof" can show.

[(SWGO)SirPepsi]

My point was that although emotion (whenever it's used to make a valid point) can alter perspectives and provide insight into the problem, it's not going to alter the constitutionality of abortion.

[Duel of Fates]

My point was that although emotion (whenever it's used to make a valid point) can alter perspectives and provide insight into the problem, it's not going to alter the constitutionality of abortion.

And yet when arguing for Obamacare, you used emotional arguments like "you don't care about sick kids" or "you would rather have people die because they cannot afford healthcare". If you have a problem with emotional arguments, don't throw yours into the mix and chastise others for the same thing.

Btw. I'm baaaaack.